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Should we start a separate thread about the OZ PGA Championship? I assume it is not a LIV event :)
For me, all actual golf on the Professional Golf thread ?

But now you've raised it ?, have we heard if those players associated with liv have been treated the same as rest of players? Is only co-sanctioned by DPWT so less sway I assume.

That said, I didn't hear much about DPWT tour championship in this regard, had Pelley & co softened their approach after receiving so much criticism about Valdarama?
 

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For me, all actual golf on the Professional Golf thread ?

But now you've raised it ?, have we heard if those players associated with liv have been treated the same as rest of players? Is only co-sanctioned by DPWT so less sway I assume.

That said, I didn't hear much about DPWT tour championship in this regard, had Pelley & co softened their approach after receiving so much criticism about Valdarama?


The bits I’ve seen suggest all the players have been well received in Australia, but no idea if the LIV guys have been ignored on the TV coverage which we’ve sadly seen elsewhere.

Back to LIV, think I read they’ve sold over 35,000 tickets for the Australian event -if so, there’s obviously an appetite for it over there.
 

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The bits I’ve seen suggest all the players have been well received in Australia, but no idea if the LIV guys have been ignored on the TV coverage which we’ve sadly seen elsewhere.

Back to LIV, think I read they’ve sold over 35,000 tickets for the Australian event -if so, there’s obviously an appetite for it over there.
Similar to matches at the Qatar World Cup, were it was confirmed the attandance at one match was nearly 42,000. I was impressed, given there seemed to be a lot of empty seats and the capacity was only 40,000 (similar reports at other matches).

Makes you wonder how much truth lies behind such quoted figures at times...
 

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Similar to matches at the Qatar World Cup, were it was confirmed the attandance at one match was nearly 42,000. I was impressed, given there seemed to be a lot of empty seats and the capacity was only 40,000 (similar reports at other matches).

Makes you wonder how much truth lies behind such quoted figures at times...


In terms of football, attendance figures are always in relation to the number of tickets sold, not the actual Matchday attendance.

There’ll be loads at the World Cup that go unused, particularly for the lower key games.
 

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Maybe this shows that three tours can play together ?

I think what we are seeing currently is an indication of the way golf will go - all the tours can host their own premium events in which (hopefully) all players will have the option to participate in, spread across the calendar year, and across the globe.

It's actually ridiculous that we have 4 majors in golf, 3 of them in one country, and condensed into a 4 month period of the year.

Perhaps it's time for an indepent body in golf, to bang some heads together and secure it's future.
 
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I feel LIV has failed since Smith was recruited. It could end up a blind alley and just petre away if it cannot open the pipeline again.
PGAT has gained the upper hand without question, as it has held on to the bulk of the jewels. And may be able to win the war by just sitting it out now. Unless another half dozen from the top 30 jump, LIV will just wind itself out, being an actual seniors tour and not just semi-champions tour that it is today.
 

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I feel LIV has failed since Smith was recruited. It could end up a blind alley and just petre away if it cannot open the pipeline again.
PGAT has gained the upper hand without question, as it has held on to the bulk of the jewels. And may be able to win the war by just sitting it out now. Unless another half dozen from the top 30 jump, LIV will just wind itself out, being an actual seniors tour and not just semi-champions tour that it is today.
I see it differently, have just been watching players from all three tours enjoying their golf, a great turnout of spectators for Brisbane, so for me it is a win win win situation and great to see top players competing here again.
 

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I see it differently, have just been watching players from all three tours enjoying their golf, a great turnout of spectators for Brisbane, so for me it is a win win win situation and great to see top players competing here again.
Thats only on a micro level. Sure, this tournament is better itself for the inclusion. But the consequences of that on a regular basis, is a weaker PGAT, and so weaker golf overall, if top forces are split.
It doesnt follow that being good today, means repeating it in the long term is good. The general opinion, LIVists aside, is that it would be bad.
 

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I'm old enough to remember pro golf being played all over the UK, don't remember to many people complaining about the diluted strength of the PGAT, plus how many actual weeks did all the top players turn up for events in the US, not counting the Majors, Players and Memorial ?

I would love to see top golf being played World wide for the enjoyment of all, I can understand if your a yank and you believe you own the game, time for other Nations to have at least one event surely, if only every few years.
 
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I think what we are seeing currently is an indication of the way golf will go - all the tours can host their own premium events in which (hopefully) all players will have the option to participate in, spread across the calendar year, and across the globe.

It's actually ridiculous that we have 4 majors in golf, 3 of them in one country, and condensed into a 4 month period of the year.

Perhaps it's time for an indepent body in golf, to bang some heads together and secure it's future.

So you think LIV will change their model to allow players to just turn up for their “premium” events and not had to follow the LIV mantra ?

And which LIV events are “premium” ?

And the majors are played where they are because that’s the biggest markets for golf - even LIV know that hence why 80% will be in the US

Events happen all over the globe 12 months of the year already and they did before LIV came along - they haven’t added anything new beyond a number of rich comps
 

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I'm old enough to remember pro golf being played all over the UK, don't remember to many people complaining about the diluted strength of the PGAT, plus how many actual weeks did all the top players turn up for events in the US, not counting the Majors, Players and Memorial ?

I would love to see top golf being played World wide for the enjoyment of all, I can understand if your a yank and you believe you own the game, time for other Nations to have at least one event surely, if only every few years.

For Europeans, the best place for all top golf to be played is in the US. Prime time evening TV. When it is anywhere else, it suits far few to see it.
The number of people at a tournament is miniscule compared to the TV audience, which is the one that matters.
 

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I see it differently, have just been watching players from all three tours enjoying their golf, a great turnout of spectators for Brisbane, so for me it is a win win win situation and great to see top players competing here again.
Why are you discussing the Australian PGA on this thread, it has zero relevance.
 
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