Mel Smooth
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Indeed, not bad for the bottom feeders in the series that couldn't even manage to get a bye into Saturday ;-)
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Indeed, not bad for the bottom feeders in the series that couldn't even manage to get a bye into Saturday ;-)
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
LIV is the Mario Ballotelli of Golf...
It's never their fault ...
It's never their fault ...
Mel Smooth
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I said it was their fault, just as I said it’s the PGA tours fault those LIV players can no longer play on the tour that has the most points on offer.
I think that’s a fair assessment.
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ColchesterFC
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It's the players fault not the PGA tour. They were aware of the rules when they signed up for the tour that they couldn't play on another tour without a release from the PGA tour. The players chose to break that part of their contract, that's not the fault of the PGA tour.
Mel Smooth
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The PGA have released players before, they chose to ban the LIV players to try and stem the flow of players - it didn't work, now it looks like their option is to use the OWGR points situation to try and stop the LIV series from taking a significant number more. But, the credibility of the OWGR rankings are already being questioned by plenty of people - and it will become abundantly clear that the OWGR is just an extension of Pelley and Monahans opinions on LIV, given there are already cedible ways of ranking players.
cleveland52
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Glad to see that you totally understand. The system wasn't devised for golfers playing leisurely golf like LIV Series. I do believe that the OWGR org. is debating as we speak as to how many points if any to anyone not conforming to the said criterias.
Mel Smooth
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Well let’s hope they see sense to preserve their reputation as being a reliable ranking system for ALL professional golfers.
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Were those players released to play tours based mainly in North America?
Mel Smooth
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I don't know, but the world is a small place these days, so is that relevant, unless they wanted to, I don't know... control their monopoly of that area?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
PGAT has always had a system for allowing players to play on other Tours that don't detract from their current event.
Funnily enough LIV doesn't meet the criteria for that..
Heard that before somewhere......
Funnily enough LIV doesn't meet the criteria for that..
Heard that before somewhere......
Nonsense. If the OWGR claims to discriminate and rank the best golfers in the world, then it has to adapt to what golfers are doing, and assign rankings the represent the level of their golf and competitive performance.
If it doesnt have the capability to judge that Cam Smith is one of the best 10 players in the world, then it is inaccurate, do question. Arguments that, well, he doesnt play in tournaments that they OWGR sets down as necessary for its points, therefore he isnt a good golfer is rubbish and fooling no one. We see it for the LIV v PGAT propaganda that it is.
The OWGR has become meaningless now. It is not what it says on its tin.
It has become a tool in that war - at the expense of its credibility.
It is like arguing that if a watch is running slow, that the earth should slow down. The measurement tool no longer fits reality. The tool must be recalibrated.
The OWGR has as much credibility now as North Korea's claim about Kim Jong-Il being the all time greatest golfer. OWGR needs to move quickly to correct this. Or some people might regard it rankings as dubious, like those who have doubts about Kim's scoring 38 under.
Kim Jong-Il once carded 38-under par at Pyongyang Golf Course | The Star
Kim Jong-Il once carded 38-under par at Pyongyang Golf Course | The Star
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
OWGR ranks all professional Tours that meet their criteria. MEET THEIR CRITERIA...
LIV chose to ignore those criteria.
So LIV get no points.
This is not an OWGR problem..Smith, DJ etc are playing in events that do not qualify. By choice.
It's really simple....
LIV complies with the criteria for gaining ranking points, going through the process as prescribed, and they get points and the the Pros can do what the hell they like...
What is difficult understand about that.?
LIV chose to ignore those criteria.
So LIV get no points.
This is not an OWGR problem..Smith, DJ etc are playing in events that do not qualify. By choice.
It's really simple....
LIV complies with the criteria for gaining ranking points, going through the process as prescribed, and they get points and the the Pros can do what the hell they like...
What is difficult understand about that.?
Thats the problem. If THEIR CRITERIA dont correctly assess the rankings of the world best golfers, then they are meaningless.
BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
But Cam Smith is no longer competing against other golfers in the world. He is competing in a closed shop exhibition tour.
So how do you assess his ability against golfers on tours that aren’t a closed shop?
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Those golfers are playing a tour that doesn't play the same golf as the others.
It's like Man City deciding that they're only going to play an hour but still want all 3 points when they win.....
If these other "best players in the world" want in then they need to lean on LIV..not the other way round.
LIV is showing unparalleled levels of arrogance in demanding that everyone else bows to their demands.......they are the outsiders..
Mel Smooth
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I'm pretty sure they are. Let's not get into the argument about cuts, and number of holes, because it doesn't really hold up in the OWGR's favour.
