LIV Golf

[Blue in Munich]

I confess, what little I did see of the first event didn't make me want more, and like you an invitation field isn't what I want to watch. I haven't bothered to get into the arguements between all the different parties, my life is too full and busy for that, but I wouldn't be suprised if falsehoods and counter claims were flying about, especially where money is concerned.
The Hundred, I get your point, but it has put cricket ( or a form of it) into a family/kids enviroment that hopefully will mean more boys and girls taking up the game. I know my wife is more interested in the Hundred, than say an ODI or Test match. But I do see your point, and have some agreement with you on it.
We watch it on BBC, so are Peterson free

My point about The Hundred wasn't the cricket itself, purely the hideous graphics and motormouth commentary. Wasn't aware it was on the BBC so I'll look out for it there, and like your Mrs, Mrs BiM would be prepared to give The Hundred or a T20 game a run.

The porkies relate more to the flannel about playing less when LIV is signing them up to one less tournament than the PGA, less travel when they'll be off to Asia and the Middle East more than they'd need to with the PGA Tour and growing the game, which of course they couldn't do on the PGA Tour with the First Tee programme.

I think Richard Bland was fairly open about his reasons for going, others not so much. And I wouldn't disagree with your point about both sides not being entirely honest in their claims.

 

[fundy]

I'm off to the hundered in a few weeks, it's great fun it's accessible, the kids love it the crowds are great even the wife is coming along. There is always the odd miserable fart who can't stomach any sort of change, it's understandable but it's no reason to not try different things, we can always move on without them...

that would be fine if in the process they hadnt seriously damaged the county championship, turned the Royal London One Day Cup into a second team competition and the T20 blast into a feeder comp

call me an old fart who cant stomach change all you like but destroying everything that was good with the domestic game to shoehorn in a vanity project, purely about raising money for a select few, under the guise of attracting a few new fans who couldnt stomach an extra 20 balls in each innings is where i draw the line

obviously you are local to one of the franchises cities, what are fans who now dont have a team within 100 miles of where they live supposed to do?

genuinely what does the hundred have that the t20 blast doesnt that appeals to your wife?

 

[sunshine]

Cam Smith trending on Twitter saying that he and Leishman are signing for LIV after the Tour Championship.

He could be world #1 by then.

Why have you made this up?

Maybe he will go to Liv, but he’s said nothing about it at all.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Why have you made this up?

Maybe he will go to Liv, but he’s said nothing about it at all.

He’s not made anything up, he said it’s trending on Twitter, which it definitely has been today.

 

[BubbaP]

I'd posted previously I thought the ruling wouldn't go in favour of the three. Right now it feels bit of a poor PR move. There seemed a bit if a growing view of 'PGAT administrators = bad', and this seems to have switched that around. I don't really buy the 'suing the players' line, but it's been a successful media angle.
Have read a few rambles from US based legal people saying the pitch for the 3 was clearly not going to fly - either this was a 1st hand in a longer messy game, or the liv lawer was just a bit rubbish!

 

[BubbaP]

He’s not made anything up, he said it’s trending on Twitter, which it definitely has been today.

To be fair the post was a bit ambiguous and open to interpretation IMO. I think sunshine read it as 'Cam Smith had said it' (I also read it that way initially), whereas we know it was a different Cam who said it.

 

[Dando]

Apparent Cam Percy had been reported missing…….

he’s looking for my short game. Not sure we’ll ever see him again

 

[Green Man]

Must be the day of Cams. Times reporting that Cam Young is joining LIV.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...th-to-liv-after-fedex-cup-play-offs-6mvg0lqn2

 

[Backsticks]

he’s looking for my short game. Not sure we’ll ever see him again

Scary mofos etc.

 

[Backsticks]

Must be the day of Cams. Times reporting that Cam Young is joining LIV.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...th-to-liv-after-fedex-cup-play-offs-6mvg0lqn2

There are far too many Camerons on the PGAT anyway. Its tee to green Camerons. About time they were thinned out.

 

[sunshine]

To be fair the post was a bit ambiguous and open to interpretation IMO. I think sunshine read it as 'Cam Smith had said it' (I also read it that way initially), whereas we know it was a different Cam who said it.

That’s the way I read it because that’s the way it was written. Blatant lies. Maybe ultimately Smith will go to Liv, but he hasn’t said anything about it.

 

[RRidges]

There are far too many Camerons on the PGAT anyway. Its tee to green Camerons. About time they were thinned out.

Plenty seen ON the greens too. Not entirely sure why though.

 

[Blue in Munich]

That’s the way I read it because that’s the way it was written. Blatant lies. Maybe ultimately Smith will go to Liv, but he hasn’t said anything about it.

He hasn't said he's going to LIV, but he's going out of his way to avoid actually saying he's not going to LIV. Conclusion; he's going to LIV.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm off to the hundered in a few weeks, it's great fun it's accessible, the kids love it the crowds are great even the wife is coming along. There is always the odd miserable fart who can't stomach any sort of change, it's understandable but it's no reason to not try different things, we can always move on without them...

My dislike for the Hundred is nothing to do with hating change

It’s the fact it’s ruining domestic cricket for the sack of forced teams being franchised out of the test grounds

Right now the One day cup is going on plus some county games and some counties have had their teams ripped apart

All they needed to do was to put all that money and effort into the T20 blast - all the hundred does is appeal to franchise whores like Pietersen

It’s 20 balls less , and it’s ruining the domestic county game

 

[Backsticks]

He hasn't said he's going to LIV, but he's going out of his way to avoid actually saying he's not going to LIV. Conclusion; he's going to LIV.

Yes. He's going. After the Fedex, and maybe the Presidents. He may as well say - look, if I said I was going to LiV I couldnt play in the Fedex, so do you really think Mr Reporter, that even if I am going to go, I would say it ?

He is another driving deeper of the wedge. He is a player who matters. The PGAT has had another chip knocked off it.

There are 30 players who matter in determining the strenght of a tour. You can tolerate the loss of 1 or 2. But if the Saudis can get toward 10, then the pgat is undeniably hobbled. It still wont make LIV any good - that will still be just exhibition golf with worthless "wins".

So we would have the worst of both worlds. Bad for pro golf. Bad for golf spectators.

 

[BubbaP]

It is an interesting one because I also have moral issues with the funding but I also do not have any sport subscriptions and so, as far as what i can watch is concerned, the PGA Tour does not exist to me, the DP World Tour does not exist, the LPGA does not exist and so my golf viewing was simply highlights of the majors. Now I can watch some live golf. At least with other sports, there is some that is not hidden behind a pretty expensive pay wall, there is some football on TV, there is rugby on TV (and on Amazon Prime that I have for the delivery but the sport is a bonus), there is tennis on TV and on prime, there is some cricket on TV in fact golf is about the only sport that, until now, had absolutely no free to air coverage in the UK outside of highlights of the majors. There are many faults with LIV, the funding etc but as far as viewing is concerned, it is for me the only game in town.

Just to share, if willing to download the freesports app, the International Series golf is currently on (believe next weeks is also)

 

[Springveldt]

Why have you made this up?

Maybe he will go to Liv, but he’s said nothing about it at all.

Made what up? It was trending all morning that Cam Smith and Leishman were going to LIV. There is also the chance he will be world number 1 by then.

Edit: oh, you read the “he said” part as Cam Smith saying it rather than people on Twitter saying “he and Leishman have signed”. Wording wasn’t great I agree but to start saying someone has made something up is a bit unreasonable. Looking at your posts though that seems to be your MO.

 

[Springveldt]

That’s the way I read it because that’s the way it was written. Blatant lies. Maybe ultimately Smith will go to Liv, but he hasn’t said anything about it.

Blatant lies? FML. ???

 

[Mel Smooth]

This is from Atul Khosla, the President and COO of Liv Golf, on the contracted money versus prize money argument, that has been jumped on from the courtroom this week.

 

[Swango1980]

This is from Atul Khosla, the President and COO of Liv Golf, on the contracted money versus prize money argument, that has been jumped on from the courtroom this week.

It's strange that the reverse was said to be true within court. After all, I imagine many of the people involved in those court proceedings know a heck of a lot more details than all of us expressing our views on a Golf Monthly forum. Furthermore, they are in a position that they'd have to defend what they say, if any of that is shown to be categorically untrue.

So, any explanations why some very qualified people determined that prize money was taken of contracted money, at least in some cases?