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[Marshy77]

You guys need to read George Orwell

Which tour does he play on?

 

[Bazz]

Did he who is that

Ignore me, I read it as Wayne Gretzky ???

 

[Oddsocks]

Which tour does he play on?

Chuckle chuckle chuckle ?

 

[RRidges]

Gonna be honest here Ethan, I don't know. I could go and look them up, but I'm not doing that for the benefit for the likes of you, RR, and Liverpoolphl.

I know Ogletree was out after London, and off the top of my head I think the 15 year old Chantananawut is out - although he did play in the the Junior Open a couple of weeks back where he finished 2nd.

So a claim that you can't/won't verify. Doesn't strike me as a very good approach.
Ditching Ogletree could well have been an expensive exercise. There were reports of his contract being worth 200 million. He did come last at Centurion though. I haven't saan anything about him being accepted back into The PGA Tour though. That's something that would be pretty big news.
Chantananawut's participation in the Junior Open had no Tour implications, as it's an R&A event, just as the imminent US Junior Open is a USGA one.
LIV's SA masters strategy with the Asian Tour is a pretty smart one. Basically buying a tour that can award OWGR points, albeit not at a high rate currently. If LIV stacks some events with some of its top players, the soon to be implemented changes wrt 'field rating' could help.

 

[sunshine]

Which tour does he play on?

Good one ?

Think he was on the Spanish tour in the 1930s then defected to the Dystopian World Tour in the 40s.

 

[Mel Smooth]

So a claim that you can't/won't verify. Doesn't strike me as a very good approach.
Ditching Ogletree could well have been an expensive exercise. There were reports of his contract being worth 200 million. He did come last at Centurion though. I haven't saan anything about him being accepted back into The PGA Tour though. That's something that would be pretty big news.
Chantananawut's participation in the Junior Open had no Tour implications, as it's an R&A event, just as the imminent US Junior Open is a USGA one.
LIV's SA masters strategy with the Asian Tour is a pretty smart one. Basically buying a tour that can award OWGR points, albeit not at a high rate currently. If LIV stacks some events with some of its top players, the soon to be implemented changes wrt 'field rating' could help.

Lol, there is no way on gods green earth that Ogletree was given a contract worth 200 million,I won't ask you to verify it.
His last event on the PGA Tour was in January, and one of his grievances with the PGA tour was he wasn't getting the opportunities he felt he deserved - but he definitely wouldn't have been expecting to be back playing PGA Tour events right now.

 

[RRidges]

Lol, there is no way on gods green earth that Ogletree was given a contract worth 200 million,I won't ask you to verify it.
His last event on the PGA Tour was in January, and one of his grievances with the PGA tour was he wasn't getting the opportunities he felt he deserved - but he definitely wouldn't have been expecting to be back playing PGA Tour events right now.

I wouldn't have thought so either, but who knows given what exaggeration and plain rubbish has been spouted wrt LIV.
Here's the article that mentioned 200 million btw. https://ghanafuo.com/how-much-did-andy-ogletree-get-paid-for-liv/

 

[Oddsocks]

So it seems in keep with slot of Luther big signings, Mr Stenson lost his long term sponsor A Mutual Of Omaha. Obvious he is not the first big signing to lose a sponsor, the most recent headline was DeShambles losing Bridgestone.

I’m curious as to the reasoning behind people losing sponsors because of the series. Is it because they feel they will not get the value of their investment through less events and less air time or simply because the prefer to be represented on the main tours?

It’s quite strange as there are rumours adidas are trying to buy a team name for $1bil.

 

[BubbaP]

I dont understand why professional golf needs another tour and especially one with a format that LIV are selling. Its not something that i'd be willing to pay to watch.

If the money wasnt so good there wouldn't be no discussion.

Inclined to agree, but wonder if the bookies around the globe would agree...

 

[Backsticks]

And it’s winding you up isn’t it?

Do you mean you are just trolling ?

Anyway, no, but its worth pointing out a claim you have repeatedly failed to back up.

 

[Ethan]

So it seems in keep with slot of Luther big signings, Mr Stenson lost his long term sponsor A Mutual Of Omaha. Obvious he is not the first big signing to lose a sponsor, the most recent headline was DeShambles losing Bridgestone.

I’m curious as to the reasoning behind people losing sponsors because of the series. Is it because they feel they will not get the value of their investment through less events and less air time or simply because the prefer to be represented on the main tours?

It’s quite strange as there are rumours adidas are trying to buy a team name for $1bil.

Different sponsors have different attitudes. Mutual of Omaha (a US insurance company) presumably thinks the association will harm their brand. Whether or not you think the Saudi royal family had anything to do with 9/11 or not, it does disquiet some Americans, so the association is toxic.

 

[Oddsocks]

Do you mean you are just trolling ?

Anyway, no, but its worth pointing out a claim you have repeatedly failed to back up.

I have seen various posts from people of differing tours that give the impression exactly as I described, however I did not bookmark the link or screen shot the article just incase someone disagreed with my view on a chat forum, sorry.

 

[Oddsocks]

Different sponsors have different attitudes. Mutual of Omaha (a US insurance company) presumably thinks the association will harm their brand. Whether or not you think the Saudi royal family had anything to do with 9/11 or not, it does disquiet some Americans, so the association is toxic.

Is it simply American based sponsors dropping?

 

[Jimaroid]

Is it simply American based sponsors dropping?

Bridgestone are Japanese.

 

[Oddsocks]

Bridgestone are Japanese.

I knew the forging was based in Japan, wasn’t aware if the full company was. It’s interesting to see why some sponsors have run a mile and others have stayed committed.

 

[Jimaroid]

It’s interesting to see why some sponsors have run a mile and others have stayed committed.

Follow the money.

 

[Ethan]

Bridgestone are Japanese.

Big US presence, though. Also close to PGA Tour.

 

[Oddsocks]

So with big brands walking away (example Bridgestone) is now the time for smaller brands like vice to sweep in and support this tour from early stages. There seems a great opportunity for newer or less established brands

 

[Blue in Munich]

So with big brands walking away (example Bridgestone) is now the time for smaller brands like vice to sweep in and support this tour from early stages. There seems a great opportunity for newer or less established brands

The USP of companies like Vice & Benross is that they can cut their costs and sell at lower prices because they cut out sponsorship; why would they now turn that on its head?

 

[Oddsocks]

The USP of companies like Vice & Benross is that they can cut their costs and sell at lower prices because they cut out sponsorship; why would they now turn that on its head?

They would pick up some recognised players (let’s say bottom 28 from 48) and a far more reasonable price tag opposed to the headliners. Increase their brand exposure and effectively credibility as a premium ball for a fraction of the investment the likes of srixon, titleist and Bridgestone have to commit to for the big names on main tours.

I’m solely hypothesising here, but there has to be potential with big names now being out of contract.

It’s also going to see which sponsors carry on as is (Nike and Kepka) as an example.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the brands continuing have financial links to investment from that region.

If we are taking the moral high ground against LIV and is financial sources, do the anti live group now boycott these brands?