4LEX
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No he's not. He's a fraud operating on an almost unlimited budget. The average GCSE Business Studies student would do a better job.
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No he's not. He's a fraud operating on an almost unlimited budget. The average GCSE Business Studies student would do a better job.
RRidges
Active member
Some how I doubt that! Check this link out https://caknowledge.com/greg-norman-net-worth/
Though, like many successful businessmen, he's a bad loser and a grudge-holder, especially where the PGA Tour is concerned. He apparently proposed a similar format tour some time ago, but could never make it work because the finance wasn't forthcoming. That doesn't seem to be a problem now.
Ethan
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I like Feherty, my fellow Norn Iron mucker. He has had a difficult time with his son dying of drugs/alcohol and his own battle with same. He was a very good player who probably could have achieved more, and is a funny guy.
He tells a story about playing as a young assistant in a local event on a wet and windy day on the Ards peninsula. Hits a shot into rough, hacks it out into even worse stuff, probably lost. Drops a provo backwards over his shoulder, as you did then. Turns round, can't find it. Searches for a bit, has to drop another, plays 6. Later, rain stops, he takes off his rain jacket and a ball drops out of the hood.
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Ethan
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The Trump element is an interesting aspect. The sight of Trump lording over this whilst an enquiry about how he allegedly fomented a coup on his own nation is running might be too much for some Americans to stomach. They say you can judge a person by the company it keeps. In allying with Trump, it shows itself to be amoral, unethical and utterly mercenary. Not sure that is quite the image they need.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
As much as I hate trump I can't bring myself to judge those who either have played with him or back him.
For example people I respect who have done it
Rory
Tiger
DJ
Jack (publically backed him for re-election)
Daly
Ernie
Matsuyama
JT
Bryson
Player
Ethan
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At least some of those were before the Jan 6 Capitol riots and his denial he lost the election. PGA Tour (and ex-PGA Tour) players are overwhelmingly Republican, and I expect some would consider it discourteous to refuse an invite to play with the President. I doubt so many would do it again now.
This is more about the LIV Tour association and what it says about them.
RW1986
Head Pro
It's starting to look like the Liv Golf tour could be the main tour next year.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Please excuse my ignorance but where is this link with Trump coming from?
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Steady on the political discussions chaps, we don’t any more of this on here ;-)
Ethan
Money List Winner
2 events coming up, next one at Trump Bedminster, later one at Trump Doral.
Their next tournament is at one of his courses in the US.
Ethan
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Trump is not a politician any more. Still, good to see that your instinct is to censor debate rather than try to justify Trumps' involvement. You may be evolving. A small bit.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
Ok, so let’s talk about Trump the man, rather than his political moves.
Guaranteed he’ll be there in some capacity next week, which some people will love, and some will hate.
It all adds to the media focus of course, which yet again, will divert attention away from other golf events globally.
D
Deleted member 15344
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He recently said that people should take the LIV money
Then there has been the obvious backlash
Beezerk
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Right, so another massive over reaction then?
D
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When it comes to Trump it’s pretty much standard for it to be some overreaction
Trump would love nothing better than sticking fingers up at the governing bodies - they have removed majors comps from him so it’s no surprise that he will be involved in LIV -it wouldn’t surprise me if a “links” comp is held next year at Turnberry and the timing could be interesting
The whole 9/11 issue is very much a touchy angle to use to be critical of LIV tour , the bombers were from Saudi Arabia so it’s not going down well
Ethan
Money List Winner
Sticking to golf, Trump is a well known golf cheat and owner of a very dodgy handicap (last I heard 2.9). Those alone should make golf partners run a mile.
His courses (even some of those built before he bought them have been tarted up) are also rather vulgar and wave money in your face, so I suppose it is on-brand for LIV Golf.
Beezerk
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I agree about Trump, if he shows his face and gets involved then it can’t be good optics.
Re 911 I really don’t know where I stand on this, I have the greatest sympathy for the families of the victims but I can’t help feeling they’re playing on emotional blackmail to get the headlines.
Yes, a lot of the bombers were from Saudi but to tar every Saudi national with that brush doesn’t sit right with me. I worked there in the mid 90s and the people were lovely, really generous and friendly.
D
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It’s hard for the 9/11 card for the US to use when someone is over there trying to get deals on oil
I did a couple of tours in Riyadh and Dhahran in the 90’s - locals were superb to the guys there - my dad worked for BAE there for a decade , left after the terrorist bombings and then it went downhill.
They then accelerated things to keep up with the UAE and the area started sports washing
Still think that if they had someone else instead of Greg Norman this whole thing could have been so much better - heard Mark King maybe getting involved
Ethan
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The issue is that some of the 9/11 families, and some in the CIA/FBI, believe the Saudi royal family were much closer to some of the bombers than the Saudis would like to admit. It isn't about concerns with all Saudis, just the ruling family and their acolytes.
