Leftitshort
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Of course they don’t, but there is a massive difference between direct and indirect endorsement
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So indirect endorsement is ok?
AussieKB
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There is plenty indirect in ALL tours Men and Women plus transgender.
pokerjoke
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Ah opening the door for the hypocrites
There’s no difference
Leftitshort
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Indirect endorsement is unavoidable. Which makes the whole ‘what about petrol’ argument nonsense. We all need to heat our homes & fuel our cars.
Multi millionaire golfers don’t need to jump on the payroll of an medieval despotic regime. It’s not even a subtle difference
pokerjoke
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An example would be buying petrol or diesel that comes from Russia to fund their war that’s killed 1000s of innocent people.
That’s ok is it?
Leftitshort
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You don’t see it? How odd
Leftitshort
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Do you know exactly where your petrol & gas come from?
Mel Smooth
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Do the UK and US governments need to sell weapons to Saudi in multi billion dollar deals?
Leftitshort
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There is, agreed. That ship has sailed for multiple reasons. Doesn’t excuse what is going on currently
sunshine
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The Tiger Woods foundation was started in 1996.
People might be cynical about it but what that foundation has been able to do for some kids is amazing.
Leftitshort
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Nope, what’s happening in Yemen is abhorrent. Directly perpetrated by your mob. We (our govts) shouldn’t facilitate it. Sadly they are repeating the mistakes of the last 30 years and live in fear of the fundamentalist bogeyman
sunshine
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Well I think that is exactly what they get paid for. Jubilee line trains are automated I understand, just like the driverless DLR. I’m sure the same applies to all the newer trains.
Mel Smooth
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Oh, so I support the war in Yemen now do I, shame I wasn't around in the late 30's / early 40's, I could have been supportive of the holocaust as well.
Some absoulte moronic bullshite getting posted on here .
Leftitshort
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Are you reading a different forum? You’ve been an apologist for the Saudis throughout this thread. Edit- you are correct, there is a difference between direct & indirect support as above. The subtlety seems to be lost on a few. However supporting the LIV tour can only be seen as direct support and therefore providing legitimacyOh, so I support the war in Yemen now do I, shame I wasn't around in the late 30's / early 40's, I could have been supportive of the holocaust as well.
Some absoulte moronic bullshite getting posted on here .
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pokerjoke
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No haven’t got a clue
However I’m not slating Liv players on their morals like many others are.
Corruption,human rights is everywhere and as you point out hard to avoid.
Calling out players off the back of these is ridiculous as most of us have something to do with it directly or in- directly,imo they are the same.
It will all come together at some stage and all the hypocrites will be eating maples of humble pie.
Mel Smooth
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Can you show me the posts where I've apologised for the Saudis.
AussieKB
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From the bowser....
Foxholer
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From 'Dictionary'
Apologist:
a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial.
"critics said he was an apologist for colonialism"
I dont think there is. If someone has a problem with Saudi Arabia, and criticises other for taking their oil money, then you shouldnt be giving your money to them for their oil. We are all dirty and complicity in the Saudi regime. But we take the bit that suits us - powering our cars and countries.
But, I think the oil money/morality, is incidental in all of this, and its unfortunate that it is muddying the water in what really is just a bit of business competition between two sports entertainment ventures. Matsuyama jumping would be another straw on the camel's back. Interesting to see what happens post Open when any distraction or concern about majors is then out to next April. Will more jump ? Will some stay until the end of this Autumns Fedex. I think it will be a messy 3 months, but should clarify after that. The best outcome at this stage is that the remaining top 20 make their conditions to the Saudi Arabians as follows : we will all join you - but on condition that you playt normal golf, ditch the teams, ditch the shotgun, ditch 54 holes, increase the field size, and come to a deal with both PGAT and World Tour so that we can play some tourneys with them, national opens or whatever, and allow them to be a joint second division with some promotion/relegation to the Saudi Tour. For us spectators, then the world is back to normal.
