Jacko_G
Blackballed
Instead of moaning about it and trying to tarnish the thread with it why not just report what you find offensive?
I'm sure if the mods were aware that you were upset they would do something about your concerns.
Kuch 3rd time around!
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Instead of moaning about it and trying to tarnish the thread with it why not just report what you find offensive?
I'm sure if the mods were aware that you were upset they would do something about your concerns.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Let it go mate, I've heard a hell of a lot worse than that.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Again you seem to be confused about the difference here. I'd argue that almost nobody EXPECTS to win, not since Tiger was in his prime.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
Blinking flip.. This seems to have rumbled on a bit now eh? 
FWIW, Kuch paid out more than he agreed. I have no real issue with that. Personally, I'd have tipped more, but there was no obligation to.. People making a big thing about it now just seem to want to drag someone's name through the mud. Kuch is a bit tight, so what? Doesn't make him a bad guy.. I'm more annoyed by the way the Caddy handled it TBH..
FWIW, Kuch paid out more than he agreed. I have no real issue with that. Personally, I'd have tipped more, but there was no obligation to.. People making a big thing about it now just seem to want to drag someone's name through the mud. Kuch is a bit tight, so what? Doesn't make him a bad guy.. I'm more annoyed by the way the Caddy handled it TBH..
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Blinking flip.. This seems to have rumbled on a bit now eh?
FWIW, Kuch paid out more than he agreed. I have no real issue with that. Personally, I'd have tipped more, but there was no obligation to.. People making a big thing about it now just seem to want to drag someone's name through the mud. Kuch is a bit tight, so what? Doesn't make him a bad guy.. I'm more annoyed by the way the Caddy handled it TBH..
Caddy didn't do anything until it hit the press. Caddy didn't out it, he kept quiet until traced by reporters so how can you blame the caddy?
There is a pretty decent article in the New York Times yesterday that provides a bit more background into the subsequent "request" for more money. Worth reading.
I’d argue that the best players in the world EXPECT to win every tournament they enter.
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Jacko_G
Blackballed
They do. Their self belief is their biggest asset.
Shooter McPowick
Head Pro
Prior to the Mayokoba Classic his last win was in 2014 - I don't think he was expecting to win considering he didnt have his regular caddy on the bag and the Mexican caddie didn't speak english.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
Just read it.. He politely requested more money. That's fair. He turned down an additional $15000. Now that's greedy. He's not a Tour Caddy. I've no doubt he did a good job, but the fee he agreed was paid, and a (very) small bonus.. As said, I'd have paid more, but Kuch was under no obligation to..
Oh, and I don't even particularly like Kuch. That big daft stupid "aw shucks" grin grates me like cheese, but I don't think he deserves to be called out on this..
Jacko_G
Blackballed
I think you will find I'm on record as saying he should have accepted the $15k which I'm also confident that has he been offered that at the time he would have gladly accepted.
Likewise I find that false grin unbearable. Kuch has created this car crash. Lots of snippets are now coming out too which would probably have stayed buried if he'd acted more "honourably".
The NYT just gives a bit of insight.
Sports_Fanatic
Assistant Pro
Just in case you all haven't had enough, latest story (admittedly from twitter as I know some don't like it as a source) is the same caddy helped Alex Cejka to a top 10 (7th) in 2017 and got paid $900 for the week. Player winnings that day were £177k so seems Kuch may not be alone and it's common when you hire a local caddy.
Grant85
Head Pro
Kuchar is going to cough up the $50k to David Ortiz.
Lost all respect for him now.
Lost all respect for him now.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
It's been an absolute car crash for him. The negativity and fall out surrounding this has been really damaging.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
I wonder which if his sponsors threatened him?
Grant85
Head Pro
I’d imagine this was a factor.
The stuff from earlier in the week about making it out to have been a great week for Ortiz did not play well over there.
This is them onto damage limitation.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Fair play.
We can get back to the big grinning smile now and forget about it.
Be nice if they working together again next year.
We can get back to the big grinning smile now and forget about it.
Be nice if they working together again next year.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
So he's effectively been blackmailed into paying him via social media then? How wonderful.
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I would imagine that is a case of "Bob Hope and No Hope".
