ColchesterFC
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You're writing them off by saying that Suarez shouldn't be judged as a person by how he behaves on the pitch.
Howard Webb,.... above his own station!!!!!?
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You're writing them off by saying that Suarez shouldn't be judged as a person by how he behaves on the pitch.
ColchesterFC
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A bit like Ashley Young for Man Utd not getting decisions presumably based on his reputation as a diver.
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That's not writing them off - that's understanding that people can have two different characters - one when they are playing and one when they are with their family or living their normal life
Suarez has made mistakes on a football field - he has been punished for those mistakes and now he moves on.
Every time a thread about football appears he is becomes a target for on here regardless of what the thread is about - in this case Suarez is actually the victim of a shockingly poor ref decision - yet somehow it ends up being his fault - it's getting tiresome now and it's the same old story every time.
Yes he has fecked up in the past but is it not time to move on now and get passed the "disgraceful human being" etc comments
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Phil
do you think his reaction to the foul is right? (and i deliberately say foul not tackle as it clearly was)
do you think his reaction to the foul is right? (and i deliberately say foul not tackle as it clearly was)
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
So is the next striker who misses a penalty or an open goal going to get penalised?
People make mistakes. They always have and they always will.
It's not the Referee's fault that so much money is at stake in the game yet they get the most abuse when they get something wrong, with many a cry of "that cost us 3 points" or whatever...
The Ref makes a decision
Agree or disagree - move on. Get on with it. It was a mistake. Nobody died.
Years ago, while playing Cricket, a batsman hit the ball straight back to me( the bowler). The appeal went up, the Umpire didn't give it, saying he hit the ball into the ground ( he didn't). While everyone else started complaining I was on my way back to my mark to bowl the next ball.....
The sooner Football understands that mistakes are ALWAYS going to be made and stops bleating about it the better.
JCW
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Yes and you can`t see it sadly so you are trying to be clever .................... Liverpool lost , get over it and move on , a lot of you Liverpool fans thought after winning 5-1 the week before that all you had to do was turn up , to be fair so did I but life is not that way , you had all the breaks the week before .........................EYG
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No it's not right - any over reaction is wrong
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If players make mistakes they get dropped , if managers make mistakes they get fired , if clubs make mistakes they get relegated or lose trophies - in football or any sport a mistake is punished in some way
Football refs get relegated or rested when they make mistakes that cost teams
Webb made a mistake that potentially costs a great deal to a team - a trophy , a route into a Europe etc - there is a price to pay for that mistake
Yes it's not life or death etc but that doesn't mean that mistakes can be ignored
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The point of the thread is clearly missed by you - oh well
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
No, that's 2 facets of the same Character. Unless you've been medically diagnosed otherwise you have one Character.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Let's hope that all PL Refs don't make mistakes this weekend that mean they get "rested" coz there won't be any games the weekend after as there won't be any Refs to Ref them....
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Plenty of refs to promote or use thankfully :thup:
JCW
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No I have not , you have , Liverpool fans moaning about the ref , not fit to ref and the rest , I say this to you, that had it been any other Liverpool player it would have been given and it still has to be taken and scored , because it was LS, it was a factor in why in was not given , LS on the pitch is LS off it , his make up in life is to win at any cost and he has proved it many times
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How do you know ? Have you met him off the pitch away from football ?
And if Webb did judge the incident based on who it was then he deserves to be rested or demoted because he has failed to do his job correctly
ColchesterFC
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Why should Webb be any different to the rest of us just because he's a referee? If I played golf against someone that cheated then that would definitely be on my mind if I had to play against him again. Or if I did some work for someone that refused to pay then the next time I would want money up front. If you've been cheated before then it is obviously going to be on your mind or at the very least in your subconscious when it comes up again. He wouldn't be human if he didn't and Suarez is finally reaping what he has sown for all his antics over the last few seasons. It was a blatant foul but maybe in the back of Webb's mind he knew that Suarez had conned him before and he didn't want to get conned again.
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When did Suarez con Webb before ?
You ref a game based on what is actually happening and not based on any reputation
Each tackle is judge on merit regardless of the player.
If a ref can't do that then he needs to do a different job
JCW
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Well said , totally agree with you
JCW
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I can ask you the same , Have you met him and know him well and don't be clever and say you have because then you should know better ok , are you just having a wind up and as for judging an incident or a person you have to look at everything and in this case he had to do it in an instance and as it was LS and his long list of incidents it was not hard , it may not have been a right one but like I said , anyone else and it would have been given
ColchesterFC
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He may not have conned Webb directly, in fact I think it was Webb that didn't give Suarez a penalty in the Chelsea game earlier in the season, but he has definitely conned other refs. If you saw a colleague get conned by someone would you change your opinion of them if you had to do business with them? It's not just Suarez though, Young gets the same because of his reputation. If Suarez/Young didn't dive in the past then it wouldn't be in refs minds now and they might get more decisions now. And I'll repeat, they are reaping what they have sown. Both of them have reputations for very good reasons and that has to affect the way they are treated.
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No I don't know him well - hence why I'm not judging him and saying he is the same off the field as he is on it - I'll judge him on the football field.
No you don't have to look at everything - you judge the each incident on it's own merit - nothing else should come into it.
