Howard Webb,.... above his own station!!!!!?

[ColchesterFC]

No you don't have to look at everything - you judge the each incident on it's own merit - nothing else should come into it.

And part of the incident is the players involved and if one of them has a reputation for diving without contact then that is part of the incident you are viewing.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He may not have conned Webb directly, in fact I think it was Webb that didn't give Suarez a penalty in the Chelsea game earlier in the season, but he has definitely conned other refs. If you saw a colleague get conned by someone would you change your opinion of them if you had to do business with them? It's not just Suarez though, Young gets the same because of his reputation. If Suarez/Young didn't dive in the past then it wouldn't be in refs minds now and they might get more decisions now. And I'll repeat, they are reaping what they have sown. Both of them have reputations for very good reasons and that has to affect the way they are treated.

Young still gets plenty of decisions go his way - just as other players like Robben , Drogba , Bale , Ronaldo , di Maria etc still get decisions go their way

There is no excuse for what Webb did regardless of who the player is. It appears that because it's Suarez it's ok to not give him correct decisions.

Suarez hasn't coned Webb before and Suarez has had many decisions not go his way - in fact I reckon he has more not go his way than go his way. He gets clattered from pillar to post and regularly doesn't get anything from refs.

I'm sure you can point out the blatant dives from Suarez in the last 12 months - in fact you can tell me when he last got a penalty when he dived.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And part of the incident is the players involved and if one of them has a reputation for diving without contact then that is part of the incident you are viewing.

Wrong - the incident is the act that is being committed - a clean tackle or a foul - it's a clear foul and every single pundit has said the same thing and said it's unexplainable that he didn't give the penalty.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Wrong - the incident is the act that is being committed - a clean tackle or a foul - it's a clear foul and every single pundit has said the same thing and said it's unexplainable that he didn't give the penalty.

Total cobblers Phil. Without the people involved there will be no act and therefore it has to be considered. A player with a reputation for going down easily/diving/trying to win penalties will be judged due to this. Rightly or wrongly it will be considered.

And I agree with the pundits in this case and have stated that it was a blatant foul and should have been a penalty. I don't think anyone on here has said that it wasn't a foul.

 

[richart]

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Whats strange is that Webb has already made his decision before that acrobatics, you can already see his finger wagging to say no.

I think you will find that Webb is giving his mark of one for artistic impression.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Total cobblers Phil. Without the people involved there will be no act and therefore it has to be considered. A player with a reputation for going down easily/diving/trying to win penalties will be judged due to this. Rightly or wrongly it will be considered.

And I agree with the pundits in this case and have stated that it was a blatant foul and should have been a penalty. I don't think anyone on here has said that it wasn't a foul.

It's wrong to judge fouls on reputation - if they do then they are not doing their job correctly simple as that

People are making excuses for Webb because of who the player is - simple as that.

 

[ColchesterFC]

It's wrong to judge fouls on reputation - if they do then they are not doing their job correctly simple as that

People are making excuses for Webb because of who the player is - simple as that.

Maybe it's because Webb wasn't standing in the HNSP for judging fouls in the penalty area.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Yes and you can`t see it sadly so you are trying to be clever .................... Liverpool lost , get over it and move on , a lot of you Liverpool fans thought after winning 5-1 the week before that all you had to do was turn up , to be fair so did I but life is not that way , you had all the breaks the week before .........................EYG

What breaks did we have the week before - refereeing decisions? Dont think so, Liverpool schooled Arsenal last week, no dodgy decisions and blew them away in 19 minutes.

You are either the most Biased arsenal fan ever, the most bitterest anti-LFC fan, or you just speak cobblers to PHD level. Do you support Arsenal?

Just for the record - Skrtel is by far and away the worst at shirt pulling, and I hate seeing it. Skrtel isn't "disgraceful", but the fact that refs allow it is. The only reasons the refs dont punish him (and others) is because they must have been told to turn a blind eye to it. Understandable that they then do it as a matter of course. The thing is skrtel is good in the air - just bloody outjump your opponent instead!

Suarez - I understand the "cry wolf" reason given, as I would also expect the same when I see Ashley Young do the same (Bale last year,also) and I can also understand if 50/50 and even 60/40 decisions go against him (them), due to his reputation. However, when a penalty is as blatant as yesterdays second one, there is no excuse.

 

[JCW]

What breaks did we have the week before - refereeing decisions? Dont think so, Liverpool schooled Arsenal last week, no dodgy decisions and blew them away in 19 minutes.

You are either the most Biased arsenal fan ever, the most bitterest anti-LFC fan, or you just speak cobblers to PHD level. Do you support Arsenal?

Just for the record - Skrtel is by far and away the worst at shirt pulling, and I hate seeing it. Skrtel isn't "disgraceful", but the fact that refs allow it is. The only reasons the refs dont punish him (and others) is because they must have been told to turn a blind eye to it. Understandable that they then do it as a matter of course. The thing is skrtel is good in the air - just bloody outjump your opponent instead!

Suarez - I understand the "cry wolf" reason given, as I would also expect the same when I see Ashley Young do the same (Bale last year,also) and I can also understand if 50/50 and even 60/40 decisions go against him (them), due to his reputation. However, when a penalty is as blatant as yesterdays second one, there is no excuse.

1st goal was offside last week and yes it was a pen , not given because of the fish out of water antics of a known diver , no excuse for not giving the pen but the pundits have also said because it was LS and his fish out of water antics it when against him this time and will do again

 

[JCW]

Young still gets plenty of decisions go his way - just as other players like Robben , Drogba , Bale , Ronaldo , di Maria etc still get decisions go their way

There is no excuse for what Webb did regardless of who the player is. It appears that because it's Suarez it's ok to not give him correct decisions.

Suarez hasn't coned Webb before and Suarez has had many decisions not go his way - in fact I reckon he has more not go his way than go his way. He gets clattered from pillar to post and regularly doesn't get anything from refs.

I'm sure you can point out the blatant dives from Suarez in the last 12 months - in fact you can tell me when he last got a penalty when he dived.

LS should be on Rogue traders with all the other conman , those on there have been judged too because of what they have done in the past and will NEVER be trusted by anyone who knows about them again .

 

[Deleted member 15344]

LS should be on Rogue traders with all the other conman , those on there have been judged too because of what they have done in the past and will NEVER be trusted by anyone who knows about them again .

Who exactly do you support ?

 

[JCW]

QUOTE=Liverpoolphil;1003173]Who exactly do you support ?[/QUOTE]

That has nothing to do with this thread to quote you , nobody says it was not a penalty , Howard Webb made one wrong call , does not make him a bad ref , photos of him in an Arsenal kit and all the other stuff is not either , LS being a known conman is and the fact that he just got a penalty is as well , sorry but that's how it is ............................:sbox:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If you think Webb has made just one bad call then you must watch a different sport and the convo has ended

 

[harpo_72]

Its so easy to ref from one's armchair ....
the game doesn't allow time for in depth analysis of the offence, if it did LS would probably not complete a game as simulation would be red carded as well. Also the stars are the players and the money they draw affects decisions of refs with pressure from the team owners. Until this all changes and a rugby style of refereeing introduced will the game be cleaned up. The World Cup is going to be its usual rubbish with the Germans dishing it out and rolling around like they have been shot etc...

 

[Fish]

I haven't read all the posts but for me the refs now need to be made full-time and totally accountable. They shouldn't have other interests that dominate their lives like Webb has, these are clear distractions and as stated in this piece, his focus on the job in hand is then affected.

An interesting stat; Liverpool have won just six of the last 22 games refereed by Howard Webb

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-available-for-4000-on-comedians-website.html

 

[Hobbit]

Irrespective of what Webb may or may not have missed in last weekend's game, I don't think he's anywhere near as good as he was through '08/'09/10. In the run up to the 2010 World Cup finals he was easily in the top 3 in the world. I wouldn't put him in the top 3 in the EPL, let alone the world!

 

[Liverbirdie]

I haven't read all the posts but for me the refs now need to be made full-time and totally accountable. They shouldn't have other interests that dominate their lives like Webb has, these are clear distractions and as stated in this piece, his focus on the job in hand is then affected.

An interesting stat; Liverpool have won just six of the last 22 games refereed by Howard Webb

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-available-for-4000-on-comedians-website.html

An objective point of view, by a rival - well done Fish :thup:- you'll be getting booted off here with an attitude like that. Who JCW supports is a big secret, BTW.

 

[Fish]

An objective point of view, by a rival - well done Fish :thup:- you'll be getting booted off here with an attitude like that. Who JCW supports is a big secret, BTW.

No its not, he's a Gooner :smirk:

 

[Fish]

An objective point of view, by a rival - well done Fish :thup:- you'll be getting booted off here with an attitude like that. Who JCW supports is a big secret, BTW.

100% a foul so a penalty, but, it didn't make his body do this which is why it creates doubt, I think his feet are perfectly together and gets 10/10

 

[MegaSteve]

I haven't read all the posts but for me the refs now need to be made full-time and totally accountable. They shouldn't have other interests that dominate their lives like Webb has, these are clear distractions and as stated in this piece, his focus on the job in hand is then affected.

An interesting stat; Liverpool have won just six of the last 22 games refereed by Howard Webb

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-available-for-4000-on-comedians-website.html

One after dinner speaking engagement in two months is hardly "dominating his life" though is it?