Howard Webb,.... above his own station!!!!!?

[Pin-seeker]

I don't need to know more about him than what he does on a football pitch to be able to judge him. In my view anyone that has twice been banned for biting an opponent, has been shown to dive to try to cheat the ref and opposition and puts in some of the tackles that could end a fellow players' career can be classed as a despicable human being. I don't care if he helps old ladies cross the road or rescues kittens stuck in trees, it doesn't negate the other stuff he does.

Seriously mate you have no idea what you've started here!
Hope you're comfortable as it could be a LOOOOOOOONG night.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Seriously mate you have no idea what you've started here!
Hope you're comfortable as it could be a LOOOOOOOONG night.

No problem, I'm all sorted and ready to sit back and enjoy.........

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't need to know more about him than what he does on a football pitch to be able to judge him. In my view anyone that has twice been banned for biting an opponent, has been shown to dive to try to cheat the ref and opposition and puts in some of the tackles that could end a fellow players' career can be classed as a despicable human being. I don't care if he helps old ladies cross the road or rescues kittens stuck in trees, it doesn't negate the other stuff he does.

Their is a clear difference between how people act on the football pitch to how people act off the field to judge their character as a human being

You can judge people as "footballers" from what you see - but you have no idea how he is off the field to judge him as a human being

Clear difference

Giggs is a perfect example - as a footballer - white as white - as a person of the field who sleeps with his brothers wife etc ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Think it's fairly easy to prove intent on the two occasions he bit an opponent. He may be orthodontically enhanced but it's very difficult even with teeth that size to bite someone without meaning to.

Yes he did bite someone and was rightly punished by the authorities for the incidents. Do you want to keep punishing him every single day ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

No problem, I'm all sorted and ready to sit back and enjoy.........

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Pahahaha he will drain the life out of you,he just never gets bored/tired.
No offence Phil:thup:

 

[Deleted member 1740]

As was suggested when Skrtel did the neat back flick on his 6yd box that presented Fulham with a tap in - Skrtel's problem was that he was so busy looking for a Fulham player to manhandle he ended up with his back to the player crossing the ball.

I think the 2nd goal that you're referring to was the direct result of the goalkeeper hogging his line and being too scared to come for the cross. Keeper comes and catches that no goal scored.

Back OT, Webb didn't give the pen so it doesn't really matter now.

Liverpool Should've had that game wrapped up before that incident anyway.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Their is a clear difference between how people act on the football pitch to how people act off the field to judge their character as a human being

You can judge people as "footballers" from what you see - but you have no idea how he is off the field to judge him as a human being

Clear difference

Giggs is a perfect example - as a footballer - white as white - as a person of the field who sleeps with his brothers wife etc ?

But does Giggs's personal life really have anything to do with us?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But does Giggs's personal life really have anything to do with us?

It doesnt but its used to judge people away from the football field and what sort of person they are

How people act on a football pitch shouldnt be used to judge how they are as people only how they are as footballers(sportsmen)

 

[Pin-seeker]

So Giggs is whiter than white on the pitch,but a dirty cheat off the pitch. & Suarez is the opposite
Only winding you up phil

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So Giggs is whiter than white on the pitch,but a dirty cheat off the pitch. & Suarez is the opposite
Only winding you up phil

And John Terry has it sorted both on and off the pitch

 

[ColchesterFC]

And John Terry has it sorted both on and off the pitch

And Joey Barton?

 

[Pin-seeker]

And John Terry has it sorted both on and off the pitch

That's because he's a Pro

 

[ColchesterFC]

Their is a clear difference between how people act on the football pitch to how people act off the field to judge their character as a human being

You can judge people as "footballers" from what you see - but you have no idea how he is off the field to judge him as a human being

Clear difference

Giggs is a perfect example - as a footballer - white as white - as a person of the field who sleeps with his brothers wife etc ?

Are you suggesting that I shouldn't be judging Suarez as a person based on the fact that on a football pitch he's been banned for racially abusing an opponent and biting an opponent (twice) and has also been shown to be a cheat (diving and feigning injury) and has put in some potentially career threatening challenges on opponents?

EDIT - Apologies meant to quote this one of your's "How people act on a football pitch shouldnt be used to judge how they are as people only how they are as footballers(sportsmen)"

 

[JCW]

I checked the paper today and Liverpool still lost 2-1 and its was a pen not given , as for Ryan Giggs , well his brother`s wife should have known better , men are men ok , if its on a plate most of us will have it , she is married to his brother and she should have respected that otherwise why get married . As for the diver, and whatever else he does , that's him ok , that's the way he is , when you are in public life your every move is there for everyone to see , every one can be super nice in public , but is that really them , there is a guy on HDIDO forum who everyone who knows him says he is a really nice guy and do anything for you , yet this same guy gets behind a keyboard and is then like a troll posting bile , so which is the real him , I say the troll because if he was a decent person he would not change when he is on a keyboard .......................it was a penalty and Webb should have given it , so why the double flip and roll that would get a score of 10 ,10,10 from the judges and sterling & stevie G should have seen Red and Arsenal should have had a few penalties too , look at the pen they did get , LS did not do his back flip and roll , mind he did drop to his knees like a lorry had hit him , I recalled him doing this once before and got a yellow ...............Results stands and the whole thing gave us something to debate ...........

 

[Pin-seeker]

I checked the paper today and Liverpool still lost 2-1 and its was a pen not given , as for Ryan Giggs , well his brother`s wife should have known better , men are men ok , if its on a plate most of us will have it , she is married to his brother and she should have respected that otherwise why get married . As for the diver, and whatever else he does , that's him ok , that's the way he is , when you are in public life your every move is there for everyone to see , every one can be super nice in public , but is that really them , there is a guy on HDIDO forum who everyone who knows him says he is a really nice guy and do anything for you , yet this same guy gets behind a keyboard and is then like a troll posting bile , so which is the real him , I say the troll because if he was a decent person he would not change when he is on a keyboard .......................it was a penalty and Webb should have given it , so why the double flip and roll that would get a score of 10 ,10,10 from the judges and sterling & stevie G should have seen Red and Arsenal should have had a few penalties too , look at the pen they did get , LS did not do his back flip and roll , mind he did drop to his knees like a lorry had hit him , I recalled him doing this once before and got a yellow ...............Results stands and the whole thing gave us something to debate ...........

Natasha Giggs is quite tasty tho

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Are you suggesting that I shouldn't be judging Suarez as a person based on the fact that on a football pitch he's been banned for racially abusing an opponent and biting an opponent (twice) and has also been shown to be a cheat (diving and feigning injury) and has put in some potentially career threatening challenges on opponents?

EDIT - Apologies meant to quote this one of your's "How people act on a football pitch shouldnt be used to judge how they are as people only how they are as footballers(sportsmen)"

Yes - judge him as a footballer as opposed to a human being - many people are known to be different characters on and off the field

Suarez is reputed to be a very quiet shy humble person off the pitch who does a lot for charity especially homeless children in his home country. As a footballer he has done things that are wrong and been punished for those - he isn't the perfect person on the pitch and has at times gone beyond what is acceptable

Stuff happens on a sports pitch - it's dealt with by the sports authorities and it should be left within the sporting arena.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I checked the paper today and Liverpool still lost 2-1 and its was a pen not given , as for Ryan Giggs , well his brother`s wife should have known better , men are men ok , if its on a plate most of us will have it , she is married to his brother and she should have respected that otherwise why get married . As for the diver, and whatever else he does , that's him ok , that's the way he is , when you are in public life your every move is there for everyone to see , every one can be super nice in public , but is that really them , there is a guy on HDIDO forum who everyone who knows him says he is a really nice guy and do anything for you , yet this same guy gets behind a keyboard and is then like a troll posting bile , so which is the real him , I say the troll because if he was a decent person he would not change when he is on a keyboard .......................it was a penalty and Webb should have given it , so why the double flip and roll that would get a score of 10 ,10,10 from the judges and sterling & stevie G should have seen Red and Arsenal should have had a few penalties too , look at the pen they did get , LS did not do his back flip and roll , mind he did drop to his knees like a lorry had hit him , I recalled him doing this once before and got a yellow ...............Results stands and the whole thing gave us something to debate ...........

I'm guessing there is a point hidden in that incoherent blob of words ?

 

[fundy]

Yes - judge him as a footballer as opposed to a human being - many people are known to be different characters on and off the field

Suarez is reputed to be a very quiet shy humble person off the pitch who does a lot for charity especially homeless children in his home country. As a footballer he has done things that are wrong and been punished for those - he isn't the perfect person on the pitch and has at times gone beyond what is acceptable

Stuff happens on a sports pitch - it's dealt with by the sports authorities and it should be left within the sporting arena.

Within reason I agree but when assessing a footballers character, biting opponents (yes thats plural) and racism on the pitch are very validly considered when considering a footballers character, and doing work for charity doesnt negate them imo

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Within reason I agree but when assessing a footballers character, biting opponents (yes thats plural) and racism on the pitch are very validly considered when considering a footballers character, and doing work for charity doesnt negate them imo

Again it's on the football pitch ( not saying it's right )

If he was biting people and abusing them away from the pitch then yes it's going to reflect on him as a whole

Not excusing his behaviour but people do act different on a sporting field than they do away from the sporting arena - characters differ.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Their is a clear difference between how people act on the football pitch to how people act off the field to judge their character as a human being

You can judge people as "footballers" from what you see - but you have no idea how he is off the field to judge him as a human being

Clear difference

Giggs is a perfect example - as a footballer - white as white - as a person of the field who sleeps with his brothers wife etc ?

So on that basis you presumably have no issue with someone who behaves like a perfect gentleman at home and at work but cheats to win the club championship? After all it's only on the sports field, so it's no basis on which to judge anyone.