Football European super league.

[Liverbirdie]

Apologies if its already been said as I haven't read every post... But morally and ethically the whole thing Stinks.
If it were to go ahead the current value of every premier league club would drop through the floor and it would have a knock on effect on the rest of English and Scottish Football.
Are UEFA and the FA capable/Allowed to effectively pull the plug on the premier league?
Would the owners of the other affected Clubs just have to take it on the Chin?



If it were to go ahead Ive no doubt the whole thing would Take off.
Fans would no doubt dig deeper into the pockets to pay the increased prices for the new 'Product' and those that didn't would easily be replaced.
..And kids will carry on growing up still thinking that Football is a TV Progamme.

Bang on - even though my club may be one of those picked, I dont want it to happen - tory behaviour!!!!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Bang on - even though my club may be one of those picked, I dont want it to happen - tory behaviour!!!!

I would be surprised if any would want it to happen.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Bang on - even though my club may be one of those picked, I dont want it to happen - tory behaviour!!!!

None of us do, but burying your head in the sand and saying it won't happen is daft, it's been muted before and now it's raising it's head again, as Mickie said, greedy owners.

 

[freddielong]

I believe that this is inevitable.

There is a lot of money to be made and who wouldn't want to be locked in.

 

[GG26]

To be honest if it did happen I would lose interest in watching football. Apart from the odd game I have little interest in watching games that don't involve the teams that I follow and I would want them to be the top competition or at least be in with a chance of qualifying for it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It seems the idea is coming from an NFL owner of the Dolphins who has already created a competition including the top teams Playing in China , Aus etc which appears to be a success

 

[ColchesterFC]

To be honest if it did happen I would lose interest in watching football. Apart from the odd game I have little interest in watching games that don't involve the teams that I follow and I would want them to be the top competition or at least be in with a chance of qualifying for it.

That's exactly how I feel about it. I've given up on the Champions League since it went to BT Sport as I don't care enough about it to pay for that and Sky Sports for the Premier League. The only reason I've still got Sky is because I cancelled and they offered me 50% off for a year to stay with them. The free to air Champions League game recently was Juve v Bayern which turned out to be a great game but I wasn't even interested enough in it to bother tuning in. I probably would've watched if it had been an English team shown free but there is no chance of me paying a subscription or PPV to watch a European Super League.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The first issue would be the financial rewards for the teams to want them to join, so let's say they start with 18 teams,

Arsenal
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Barca
Real Madrid
Athletico Madrid
Bayern Munich
Dortmund
Juventus
Inter
AC Milan
PSG
Monaco
Ajax
PSV
Celtic

That's 18 teams that would worldwide interest, as much as Mickie's right about supporters, who cares so long as the money comes in.

Take the games round the world like they do with F1, Week 1 9 Matches in the Far East, Week 2 Middle East etc

A slightly flawed list as you could never have Celtic without The Rangers - after all it's where they both belong -and shot of the deadweight that is the rest of Scottish football.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

That's exactly how I feel about it. I've given up on the Champions League since it went to BT Sport as I don't care enough about it to pay for that and Sky Sports for the Premier League. The only reason I've still got Sky is because I cancelled and they offered me 50% off for a year to stay with them. The free to air Champions League game recently was Juve v Bayern which turned out to be a great game but I wasn't even interested enough in it to bother tuning in. I probably would've watched if it had been an English team shown free but there is no chance of me paying a subscription or PPV to watch a European Super League.

And I don't think you are alone and despite what some think I can't see it being a huge viewing draw after the initial interest wanes as most aren't going to watch games between two sides they have no interest in especially if they then have to PPV or get charge extra on their monthly bill

 

[Qwerty]

Is it really possible for this to be put in place with any hint of opposition pushed to one side?

My concern is that I'd imagine a huge financial gulf would appear between the 'In's and Outs' possibly larger than than the premier league and the Championship currently.
Ok, Liverpool or Spurs or A.n other could get promoted in... They simply wouldn't have time to get the quality of players on board to be capable of competing and so getting Battered every week.
Also local rivalries, built up over decades... Gone!
And basically the English Top flight .. built up over 100 years Gone!

I can't help but get the impression (Not just on here) That some think this is a good idea.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Is it really possible for this to be put in place with any hint of opposition pushed to one side?

My concern is that I'd imagine a huge financial gulf would appear between the 'In's and Outs' possibly larger than than the premier league and the Championship currently.
Ok, Liverpool or Spurs or A.n other could get promoted in... They simply wouldn't have time to get the quality of players on board to be capable of competing and so getting Battered every week.
Also local rivalries, built up over decades... Gone!
And basically the English Top flight .. Again, built up over decades.. Gone!

I can't help but get the impression (Not just on here) That some think this is a good idea.

I think the clubs contract with UEFA finishes soon which then allows them to move onto a different European Comp if they wish too

What happens with the Prem Lge I'm not sure - it's a seperate entity to the FA so just as they set up the Prem Leage and teams left the Football league I guess they can do the same with a European league -

There would be a lot of initial financial input from telly contracts that would go to clubs - added in sponser contracts etc would mean the clubs would get a lot of money quickly and then that would go to the players because the top players would want to be a part of it.

If teams really wanted to do it I'm not sure what would stop them.

 

[shewy]

I'm all for it, most leagues are are bore fest anyway, same top two or three teams winning every year.
With those teams in the ESL then the remaining teams could battle it out and have a chance of winning something, also they could play homegrown players and the national sides would improve. As things stand the PL doesn't give a monkeys about the national team, same in Scotland.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

And I don't think you are alone and despite what some think I can't see it being a huge viewing draw after the initial interest wanes as most aren't going to watch games between two sides they have no interest in especially if they then have to PPV or get charge extra on their monthly bill

Imo, your issue is that you're being insular, worldwide the game is growing, they don't care if the public in the UK don't like it, the far east and middle east are waiting.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If teams really wanted to do it I'm not sure what would stop them.

Pretty sure Uefa/FIFA would put sanctions in place to stop them playing for the national sides, similar to the ban on players with the Packer cricket. I think for some the loss of playing in World Cups/Euros will be a big thing as all players aspire to play on the biggest footballing stages

I still don't see how it'll work and how once the initial cash injection has been spent where the necessary revenue will come from other than PPV and sponsorship and even the latter will dwindle once TV viewers get bored of being charged through the nose for a game between two sides they have no interest in.

The obvious answer is that UEFA will do what it did a few years back, recognise the possibility of a Euro league happening at some point, although not for a long time in my view, and work out a way to tweak the CL format to make it more intersting to sponsors and viewers and in some way use what they have to form a "Euro league" with the existing comp. I wouldn't be surprised to see it become four groups of eight clubs (your ready made mini league) and for them to play home and away, with the top two in each going into a quarter final knockout. More longer term interest in the group stage, eliminates a knockout phase and more interest for local TV coverage and the fans.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Is it really possible for this to be put in place with any hint of opposition pushed to one side?

My concern is that I'd imagine a huge financial gulf would appear between the 'In's and Outs' possibly larger than than the premier league and the Championship currently.
Ok, Liverpool or Spurs or A.n other could get promoted in... They simply wouldn't have time to get the quality of players on board to be capable of competing and so getting Battered every week.
Also local rivalries, built up over decades... Gone!
And basically the English Top flight .. built up over 100 years Gone!

I can't help but get the impression (Not just on here) That some think this is a good idea.

I don't think it's a good idea, I just think it's inevitable because of the greedy money men, UEFA/FIFA etc are not interested in the English game, just the opportunity to make money off it.

 

[garyinderry]

If it was going to happen then what is the hold up?

Also If you read the reports of the latest meeting that was held, the big 5 spent the day slapping each others back saying we are happy to be the big earners on TV money deals. It is the likes of real Madrid who play in a two team league who are actually interested in making it a reality.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If it was going to happen then what is the hold up?

Also If you read the reports of the latest meeting that was held, the big 5 spent the day slapping each others back saying we are happy to be the big earners on TV money deals. It is the likes of real Madrid who play in a two team league who are actually interested in making it a reality.

Scared of the backlash I would guess, when they do make it happen I'd hope for the teams from England that join are immediately chucked out the League and all monies they receive stopped, We then look after the teams staying and protect them.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If it was going to happen then what is the hold up?

Also If you read the reports of the latest meeting that was held, the big 5 spent the day slapping each others back saying we are happy to be the big earners on TV money deals. It is the likes of real Madrid who play in a two team league who are actually interested in making it a reality.

Current telly deals with UEFA in regards CL and a deal they had with UEFA when the CL was extended. Once those expire then they may look elsewhere

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Scared of the backlash I would guess, when they do make it happen I'd hope for the teams from England that join are immediately chucked out the League and all monies they receive stopped, We then look after the teams staying and protect them.

A lot of money would go with them. Sponsers and telly deals won't pay massive bucks without the big draws in the league

 

[Grogger]

Pretty sure Uefa/FIFA would put sanctions in place to stop them playing for the national sides, similar to the ban on players with the Packer cricket. I think for some the loss of playing in World Cups/Euros will be a big thing as all players aspire to play on the biggest footballing stages

I still don't see how it'll work and how once the initial cash injection has been spent where the necessary revenue will come from other than PPV and sponsorship and even the latter will dwindle once TV viewers get bored of being charged through the nose for a game between two sides they have no interest in.

The obvious answer is that UEFA will do what it did a few years back, recognise the possibility of a Euro league happening at some point, although not for a long time in my view, and work out a way to tweak the CL format to make it more intersting to sponsors and viewers and in some way use what they have to form a "Euro league" with the existing comp. I wouldn't be surprised to see it become four groups of eight clubs (your ready made mini league) and for them to play home and away, with the top two in each going into a quarter final knockout. More longer term interest in the group stage, eliminates a knockout phase and more interest for local TV coverage and the fans.

I agree with you Homer about sanctions from international football. I'm not sure how feasible it would be though? At the end of the day it'll be the owners who decide wether a club would breakaway and go to a European league not the players. Would it be fair to ban them? I think it's something that could be done over a period of time and I'm not sure the football associations would be too pleased about having their international players gone overnight. I'm sure a lot of players enjoy representing their countries but would the lure of mega bucks be to much to resist for some?