Dress Code - Who is responsible?

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It really is an uncomfortable, impractical and outmoded manner of dress in most environments and many aspects of life have reached this conclusion

This isn't an argument. There is a difference to wearing a suit for work, for which you are paid, to wearing one as part of your pass time. Hell its not even as part of it, its to have a bite to eat afterwards!!!

As I said, not comparable or relevant.

I don't get this thing about certain people not getting that many people don't want to wear a suit after having a round of golf.

It is relevant if a club wants to enforce it as part of their rules.

I wonder how many people that object to jacket and tie for dinner are planning to go to Hankley for the H4H day. Might be a few withdrawals when they see the dress code :whistle:
 
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Not following a rule and questioning why it is there are 2 totally different things. It is possible to do both
 

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If you don't want to wear a suit after playing golf whilst eating then you don't have - just don't go to a course that requires you to wear a suit. Then there is no problem is there

This. I'm another who can't see a problem. If I need to buy a jacket to wear at Sunningdale and NZ I will as I want to play there.
 

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The issue is more that they don't tend to specify the policy for women. I don't really consider that a jacket is necessarily the equivalent for women.

I actually changed into a frock for lunch when we played muirfield... and put a jacket on too which was a slightly odd look. In fact they had a couple of spare jackets in the ladies locker room, just in case!

Probably one where it is best to keep quiet otherwise you will start to be on the end of silly old fashioned rules. At the moment you probably have full freedoms, although I do fully accept that gaining access to all areas in certain clubs may still be a problem or if not then things have only recently changed.
 

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I know why I follow rules - because I was brought up to respect rules and follow them and also continued to respect those rules during my work life.

I'm guessing you're more the Kevin and Perry type with the constant whining "why" when told to do something or asked to follow a rule

Your guesses are like the many predictions you've made on here. Wrong!! :rofl:
 

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You could also have a bit of fun too, either take your jacket off and tie, have it hanging round your neck or just off or even better, wear every item of clothing in a completely different non matching colour. Brown shoes, pink socks beige trousers, bright yellow or red shirt and green jacket/blazer. Oh and a non matching tie of course.

You've seen Stu_C on a night out then 😜
 

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If you don't want to wear a suit after playing golf whilst eating then you don't have - just don't go to a course that requires you to wear a suit. Then there is no problem is there
That my dear Phil is not the answer to the point I was raising... do keep up. I didn't state I didn't want to play any particular course. You don't need to keep repeating the same line over and over, it's not required
 
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I don't get this thing about feeling uncomfortable in a suit. It is still the standard dress code in many work areas. Most field sales people wear a suit, if I had a medical condition and was referred to a specialist then chances are he would be in a suit too.

Do people not pursue a particular occupation because they would have to wear a suit?

I work in the City and, few if any at my work wear a suit, seems to be the norm.
 

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Not following a rule and questioning why it is there are 2 totally different things. It is possible to do both
And another correct answer. I'm really not sure why a couple of our more, shall we say, repetitive, members don't understand this. Perhaps they need to question things more and not just follow like sheep??
 

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And another correct answer. I'm really not sure why a couple of our more, shall we say, repetitive, members don't understand this. Perhaps they need to question things more and not just follow like sheep??

Precisely. If I wanted to play a top course and eat afterward on the condition I wear a jacket, I'd wear one. It wouldn't stop me wondering why I was wearing one.
 
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And another correct answer. I'm really not sure why a couple of our more, shall we say, repetitive, members don't understand this. Perhaps they need to question things more and not just follow like sheep??

Maybe you need to question that maybe those people actually enjoy the sense of occasion of putting on a jacket and tie. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they don't either.
 
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Precisely. If I wanted to play a top course and eat afterward on the condition I wear a jacket, I'd wear one. It wouldn't stop me wondering why I was wearing one.

COme on, youve been told... its becasue the club says so..!
 
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And another correct answer. I'm really not sure why a couple of our more, shall we say, repetitive, members don't understand this. Perhaps they need to question things more and not just follow like sheep??

Or perhaps some don't need or see the point in wasting energy in questioning areas that in the grand scheme of things don't affect people's lives. And there is also the possibility that they don't see the issue with the dress code and actually like to wear the correct attire
 

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Maybe you need to question that maybe those people actually enjoy the sense of occasion of putting on a jacket and tie. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they don't either.
Oh I don't need to question that, I know it to be true. That's the beauty of this world, people have differences.
Absolutely nothing wrong in wanting to dress up and wear a suit either, why would it be? It's the being forced to wear something you don't want to "because the rules say so, ner ner" that people are questioning.
Those who want to should absolutely carry on, even if not required, no question about it. That is what choice is 😊
 

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Or perhaps some don't need or see the point in wasting energy in questioning areas that in the grand scheme of things don't affect people's lives. And there is also the possibility that they don't see the issue with the dress code and actually like to wear the correct attire
Oh the irony... yet you'll waste time questioning those who question these out of date dress codes! 😂😂. Brilliant!
Point for clarification purposes though, not the 'correct' attire, the attire they are 'told' to wear. The correct attire is what each individual decides is appropriate and chooses to wear.
 

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Maybe you need to question that maybe those people actually enjoy the sense of occasion of putting on a jacket and tie. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they don't either.

Those people need to get a life then ;)

In all seriousness, if there wasn't a rule would people still wear one? If yes then why have the rule? So everyone has too, not just those that want to?
 

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Maybe you need to question that maybe those people actually enjoy the sense of occasion of putting on a jacket and tie. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they don't either.

I have no issues with treating my day as an occasion and getting dressed up AFTER my round, but the palaver of having to shower & change into a J & T mid round and back into golf gear is very questionable imo, rules or no rules.
 

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I get there is "tradition" about jackets for dinner and in the old days and some clubs, jacket and tie is still mandatory. However I like others don't get a jacket over golf clothing. Surely the golf clothing, especially in damp or really hot isn't going to be particularly fresh, and NO I don't subscribe that everyone would bring yet another top to change into for the sake of 30-45 minutes eating. What is the point in simply putting a jacket over the golf shirt. Ties are becoming a very outdated fashion item in all walks of life, including many top level professionals.

I will respect a dress code. I don't agree with all of them but it's the only way to ensure you can get on and enjoy decent food and the comfort of famous and salubrious clubhouses. The "because they say so" rule is pretty lame though and I can see a point where ties become more outdated and where these clubs begin to develop a more modern feel (and they will have to move that way at some point, nothing stays the same) then perhaps this outdated dress code will got the way of the stymie
 

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Maybe it's because they want to have a standard of dress and people to look smart .

Smart???????
If you've ever seen someone wearing a jacket over golf attire you'll realise how ridiculous this statement is...
In what Galaxy could wearing a jacket over golf clothes look anything but utterly stupid....?

It's pompous, pure and simple. A rule for the sake of a rule.
 

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Smart???????
If you've ever seen someone wearing a jacket over golf attire you'll realise how ridiculous this statement is...
In what Galaxy could wearing a jacket over golf clothes look anything but utterly stupid....?

It's pompous, pure and simple. A rule for the sake of a rule.

Simple. Especially given the garish nature of some of the golf shirts out there
 
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