Dress Code - Who is responsible?

[MendieGK]

Firstly let me say - i have no issues with whatever dress code a golf course wishes to employ. Its their club they can make their rules.

However - Who is responsible for making you aware of those Rules For a whole society day not a normal 4 ball?
(bear in mind this club does NOT have a website and does not communicate via email)

 

[guest100718]

Firstly let me say - i have no issues with whatever dress code a golf course wishes to employ. Its their club they can make their rules.

However - Who is responsible for making you aware of those Rules For a whole society day not a normal 4 ball?
(bear in mind this club does NOT have a website and does not communicate via email)

I'd expect the club to let me know of anything specific. some places we book are quite keen to emphasise the code, others I think just assume you'll know.

 

[MrC]

Firstly let me say - i have no issues with whatever dress code a golf course wishes to employ. Its their club they can make their rules.

However - Who is responsible for making you aware of those Rules For a whole society day not a normal 4 ball?
(bear in mind this club does NOT have a website and does not communicate via email)

For me, I would assume and expect normal golf attire to be standard unless advised otherwise.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

As per MrC.

If the club do not have a website and do not communicate well then they are not helping themselves but everyone who plays golf knows the basics of how to dress. The issue on the whole is for clubs who take things to an extreme, jackets, long socks etc. Golfers have to take some responsibility themselves (and I am someone who is not a fan of dress codes but does follow and respect them)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Firstly let me say - i have no issues with whatever dress code a golf course wishes to employ. Its their club they can make their rules.

However - Who is responsible for making you aware of those Rules For a whole society day not a normal 4 ball?
(bear in mind this club does NOT have a website and does not communicate via email)

I would ask the club what their dress code is to save embarrassment

I would say it would be the society Organisers responsibility to find out from the club and then let all players know

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

If they have a dress code outside of the norm (i.e. ties and jacket in the clubhouse), I would argue they should make you aware to save embarrassment.

 

[Orikoru]

Yeah, if they don't state it very clearly, either on the phone to you or on a website, I would expect it to be standard golf dress code - collared shirts and trousers/tailored shorts - nothing over and beyond that.

 

[MendieGK]

Now i can see that the view are fairly consistent with mine, i'll give some more context. I am specifically talking about Jackets & Ties for lunch.

I run my works golf society, we visit the best courses in the country - in recent years we've been to Hankley, Woking, West Hill, Worplesdon, St Georges etc. So i fully understand dress codes and we will always comply - However, every single one of these has a different code and have therefore always made me aware (either through booking forms etc or calling me).

On Monday we turned up to New Zealand for our society day, and the only communication i had had with the club was via telephone (even that was bloody hard work) - at no point did i receive any documentation etc.

None of us took jacket and ties for lunch.

I sat down with the club secretary and openly took some of the blame (obviously they could have just thrown us out, and i was acutely aware of that), but they would not even consider that it was any of their responsibility. To say he/they were rude to me was a massive understatement. so much so i almost left and had to sit in the car to calm down as i was so upset.

we ended up eating SANDWICHES on the terrace rather than receiving a 3 course carvery, and to make matters worse - when i spoke to the bar to see about ordering a load of chips to go with it, they refused (despite chips being on the menu).

The golf club was the most backward place i have ever been too, they were so far up their own a55es it was a joke. the golf course itself was great, but nothing in comparison to others in the area.

i should add, that they did reduce our cost per person for the day (to their credit) which i was not expecting.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

MendieGK, I have every sympathy with you in that case. Jackets and ties are an exception so I would expect the club to advise you of this. They will know that they are an exception and should have told you when you booked. I would not take a J & T to a golf club on the off chance.

Write a scathing letter to the sec, a letter is always good as it will be read at the committee meetings, or should be, and it means you make it official.

 

[MendieGK]

MendieGK, I have every sympathy with you in that case. Jackets and ties are an exception so I would expect the club to advise you of this. They will know that they are an exception and should have told you when you booked. I would not take a J & T to a golf club on the off chance.

Write a scathing letter to the sec, a letter is always good as it will be read at the committee meetings, or should be, and it means you make it official.

He basically said if you've been to all these other clubs you should know they all have the same rule....

Woking/St Georges Hill - Jacket over golf attire
West Hill/Worplesdon/Hanley - no change required

 

[patricks148]

you should have checked on here

forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?41969-New-Zealand-Golf-Club-Surrey

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I used to play in a society that visited all the above mentioned clubs. By default, everyone used to take a jacket and tie for dinner so if it was required for lunch then there wasn't a problem.

 

[Chokeahontas]

I have problems with clubs banning trainers in the bar (you're a sports club!), to the extent I haven't been back to play that course, I can't imagine how outraged I'd be at demanding wearing a stupid tie and jacket..

 

[MendieGK]

I used to play in a society that visited all the above mentioned clubs. By default, everyone used to take a jacket and tie for dinner so if it was required for lunch then there wasn't a problem.

we don't have dinner after mate so has never been needed, and by rule i don't visit clubs that make you change halfway between (hence not going to Berkshire).

 

[MendieGK]

I didnt add, the Pro seems to be separate from the club, as he was very much of the opinion the club was full of 'plonkers' (insert other words).

 

[guest100718]

sounds like the perfect club for D4S....

 

[MrC]

we don't have dinner after mate so has never been needed, and by rule i don't visit clubs that make you change halfway between (hence not going to Berkshire).

I wouldn't want to play golf and have to get changed for lunch to get changed back for golf...............

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Thankfully in the NE I can only think of one club that insists on a J & T and I would never play there as it is not exceptional enough to warrant the hassle. I guess if you have more courses near you that have this rule you will have to put it down as lesson learnt and you will check in advance. Personally I would ask before booking and say thanks but no thanks if it was required.

At least you have the satisfaction of knowing that your society will never give this club another penny in green fees or over the bar.

 

[Slab]

With no website or email communication did the club sec offer any explanation has to how you were supposed to know about their club rule?

As far as I can see online others have been reliant on tip-offs, hearsay, past experience etc in order to make sure they comply which seems a tad hit & miss for the club & visitors

How many players were there? I cant imagine the club throwing out piles of fresh food that your guys couldn't avail of so either you were a small group or they did just chuck it... or maybe they just microwave from frozen

 

[MendieGK]

With no website or email communication did the club sec offer any explanation has to how you were supposed to know about their club rule?

As far as I can see online others have been reliant on tip-offs, hearsay, past experience etc in order to make sure they comply which seems a tad hit & miss for the club & visitors

How many players were there? I cant imagine the club throwing out piles of fresh food that your guys couldn't avail of so either you were a small group or they did just chuck it... or maybe they just microwave from frozen

there was 33 of us. The issue came to light first thing in the morning when the pro mentioned it to one of the players.

I then took it upon myself to try and get it sorted before i teed off - i have no idea what would have happened if we'd just finished the morning round and then expected to eat.. hadnt even crossed my mind!