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I'm changing club come June. Will go from £1,450 or so to £1,950. So I'll be seeing a 35% increase on the cost.
They did the same at my club. Additional £85 was added to my clubhouse balance.Our is 1450, including bar levy and affiliations .
If you pay before the end of the month you get additional credit on the bar card.
I’m really fascinated about clubs who have zero increases this year (there are a couple in the local area) - are these clubs unaffected by inflation? Have they frozen all staff wages? I assume they must be all on fixed energy tariffs for the next year and are not planning on investing in any new machinery, but they will have to buy course materials which will be at a higher cost than last year.Our subscriptions have remained the same as last year (£1114 for 7 day) bu the County fees have increased, apparently back to the pre-covid rates. As an incentive to renew on time, there will be a draw for the following:
Free like for like membership for the following year
Free driver and fitting form the Pro shop
£200 bar credit.
How much was the % increase in total? 6% over CPI would be around 16% wouldn’t it?In the end, our course opted for a 6% over CPI increase bring it to around £1300. This was rowed some way back from the original proposal of 8% over CPI for 1 year followed by 4% over CPI for a further 3 years which it seems was regarded as over aggressive and I suspect for some, unaffordable.
This is I know a long way over what the vast majority on here have faced but at least the revised lower proposal was voted for by a large majority, and thus avoided a major fracture in the club membership.
Our's havent increased this year in recogniotion of the cost of living crisis. The last two years have seen us make good profits due to: good financial management: government assistance through the pandemic: increased memebership. Director's felt that leaving the subs as they were would give the club the best chance of retaining those memebers who joined during the pandemic, and that in any case an increase was not neccesary at this point as we have sufficient cash in the bank to cover cost increases.I’m really fascinated about clubs who have zero increases this year (there are a couple in the local area) - are these clubs unaffected by inflation? Have they frozen all staff wages? I assume they must be all on fixed energy tariffs for the next year and are not planning on investing in any new machinery, but they will have to buy course materials which will be at a higher cost than last year.
Or are they worried about member retention?
I think you are still getting good value though even at the higher rate.16.7% I believe. Plus roughly a quarter of the members face a staged increase above that, due to withdrawal of discounts previously available, for example a 10% discount for 2 memberships for couples. Hence mine is actually 19.2%.
It is pretty severe and I'm not over the moon about it, not least because it is pretty obvious we are an outlier on increases for the current year, but as I said, at least there was a large majority voting in favour. This sort of thing has a horrible tendency to divide a club and I feared that is where we were heading but so long as it's a one year 'correction' and they don't keep continually jacking up the price way above CPI, that has been avoided.
How would you know?I think you are still getting good value though even at the higher rate.
I have quite a few friends at Minch and play there regularly and as I also play in Gloucestershire, I play a lot of courses in the County and I obviously know the fees paid at them. Given the year round conditioning, facilities and choice of two courses I believe it is good value for money versus others in the area.How would you know?
This is what our board tell us but it rather misses the point. We are a members club not a business trying to optimise profit by pricing versus local clubs. What matters more is whether the cost is higher than it was in the past and whether the product is better. On the former, it now is in real terms on the latter, that is subjective, but if you know the courses, do you think they are better than 7 or 8 years ago? I don't think they are. If anything, I'd say they are maybe not quite as good as back then. I certainly don't believe that are noticeably better.I have quite a few friends at Minch and play there regularly and as I also play in Gloucestershire, I play a lot of courses in the County and I obviously know the fees paid at them. Given the year round conditioning, facilities and choice of two courses I believe it is good value for money versus others in the area.
I did state "I believe it is good value for money versus others in the area" - not necessarily what you consider good value for you (I cannot be the judge of that), nor did I say that the value for money has changed for good or ill over the past years. You are right in that I have not seen any improvement in the courses over the last 7 or so years - I would like to think there are plans to do so.This is what our board tell us but it rather misses the point. We are a members club not a business trying to optimise profit by pricing versus local clubs. What matters more is whether the cost is higher than it was in the past and whether the product is better. On the former, it now is in real terms on the latter, that is subjective, but if you know the courses, do you think they are better than 7 or 8 years ago? I don't think they are. If anything, I'd say they are maybe not quite as good as back then. I certainly don't believe that are noticeably better.
That makes it poorer value for money, does it not? What other clubs charge is immaterial to me, since I'm not a member there.
Or have they been overcharging for the amount of work they do currently?I’m really fascinated about clubs who have zero increases this year (there are a couple in the local area) - are these clubs unaffected by inflation? Have they frozen all staff wages? I assume they must be all on fixed energy tariffs for the next year and are not planning on investing in any new machinery, but they will have to buy course materials which will be at a higher cost than last year.
Or are they worried about member retention?
Good point.Or have they been overcharging for the amount of work they do currently?
Being good value versus other courses in the area has some resonance in the context of attracting new members, who may be in a position where they are picking from several options. But not, for the reasons I say, if you already are a member and it's your local course.I did state "I believe it is good value for money versus others in the area" - not necessarily what you consider good value for you (I cannot be the judge of that), nor did I say that the value for money has changed for good or ill over the past years. You are right in that I have not seen any improvement in the courses over the last 7 or so years - I would like to think there are plans to do so.
I would assume that given the increase over CPI and a higher increase than all others in the area there must be some plans as to what they will do with the increased revenue?