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I'm on your side Phil re club champs, but the above is a terrible argument.
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I'm on your side Phil re club champs, but the above is a terrible argument.
Junior
Tour Winner
36 holes over a weekend. In the 2nd round on a Sunday you go out in leader-board order (ie. those leading are out last). Its a "board competition" played off scratch, but there is also a voucher for lowest net scores. They introduced the net prize a few years back to get more people playing as there was only 20 or so that used to sign up. It's good fun with a crowd usually following the last group up the final few holes.
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That was purely my reasons why the Open is different to your average tour comp
Paperboy
Mini Cam
Ours is done over 36 holes on either the Saturday or the Sunday best gross is the club champion. Think there is a net comp as well but not sure.
Higher handicappers go off the first in the morning, whilst the lower handicappers start on the 10th.
Afternoon it swaps around and the lower guys come in on the 18th to a big crowd on the balcony.
I was the highest handicapper last year, it was absolutely brutal. Had pleasant company so wasn't all bad. Fingers crossed I can make into it again this year
Higher handicappers go off the first in the morning, whilst the lower handicappers start on the 10th.
Afternoon it swaps around and the lower guys come in on the 18th to a big crowd on the balcony.
I was the highest handicapper last year, it was absolutely brutal. Had pleasant company so wasn't all bad. Fingers crossed I can make into it again this year
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I fear your going off topic here
This is about the scoring format used in Club Champs and whether that includes a handicap allowance or not
You compared Club Champs to any medal if the same scoring format is used
I suggested the scoring format in the Open is the same as any tour event (match play events aside of course) & it doesn't seem to devalue that championship
Are you now suggesting The Open's importance and prestige is achieved despite the scoring format?
Surely the committee at your place need to look at conditions, course setup etc for your club champs if its run (and just looks like) any other medal
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Our club champs is set up to find the best golfer over that weekend
That person is the one that goes around the course in the least amount of shots over two rounds not someone who can score 90 odd then get 20 odd shots taken off
That person then goes on to represent the club in national scratch comps and also county comps
Having HC involved makes it just another medal at our place
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FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
It's got to be scratch. Handicap champion would be meaningless.
richart
Major Champion
Ours is 36 holes medal gross on one day. Winner is nearly always a plus/scratch golfer.
We also have a scratch matchplay competition that runs through the summer. The winner of this has ben as high as a 5 handicapper. Not keen on matchplay to determine club champion.
We also have a scratch matchplay competition that runs through the summer. The winner of this has ben as high as a 5 handicapper. Not keen on matchplay to determine club champion.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
That sounds like it might work pretty well
'The best golfer over that weekend' Do they get that in gold lettering too. Somehow it just doesn't quite have the same ring to it as 'Club Champion'
My point is that I just don't think those two phrases are as synonymous as some have posted
And of course it will not necessarily find the best player at the club which is what you said was the purpose of the Club Championship
Wayman
Tour Winner
Hate when people say this. I'm off 6 and I found rather play off scratch every week and get beat. All this "stop the low handicaps moaning" Christ they pay same membership as you so why shouldn't they have more chance winning prizes
To the OP if anyone comes along and says or I'm the club champion ours is a nett comp. sorry I my eyes you ain't club champion you have won a event with your handicap took off
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
at my course Club Champs is an 18 hole affair ,everyone can enter and the best golfer on the day off scratch is acclaimed the Club Champion.
also the h/cap winner on the day is honoured as the h/cap Champion .both names go on the board .
we also run an order of merit trophy for both scratch and h/cap again both names go on the board as these trophys are seen as ones to win .
my idea of club champ is the scratch player everytime ,but its not always the lowest h/cap player that wins .
also the h/cap winner on the day is honoured as the h/cap Champion .both names go on the board .
we also run an order of merit trophy for both scratch and h/cap again both names go on the board as these trophys are seen as ones to win .
my idea of club champ is the scratch player everytime ,but its not always the lowest h/cap player that wins .
D
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That sounds like it might work pretty well
'The best golfer over that weekend' Do they get that in gold lettering too. Somehow it just doesn't quite have the same ring to it as 'Club Champion'
My point is that I just don't think those two phrases are as synonymous as some have posted
And of course it will not necessarily find the best player at the club which is what you said was the purpose of the Club Championship
Our club champ over the decades has been the best golfer in the club
Scratch comps find the best golfer
I would expect that to be the case at most clubs
Most clubs only really run one or two scratch comps and the club champs is the main one - make it HC and it loses something
I've never known a club that is anything but gross. Most have h/cap limits before you can enter. This is the one comp a year that is definitely for the big boys only.
srixon 1
Journeyman Pro
Our club championships are played over 36 holes and gross scores are what counts to become "The Champion" for that year. However, during the same comp there is a 36 hole nett championship.
We also have another scratch competition, an 18 hole qualifier followed by the top 16 playing a scratch knock out.
We also have another scratch competition, an 18 hole qualifier followed by the top 16 playing a scratch knock out.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
So other than winning the club champs what measures are you using to say they are the best golfer at the club?
And can you please stop posting about not making it handicap. Where did you get the idea I need to keep hearing that.
I don't advocate using a handicap allowance in determining the club champion/best player that weekend/best player at the club!
DCB
Well-known member
In our area, the club Champion represents the Club in several scratch inter-club events. At this level you can be playing some very good golfers indeed.
D
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Because ability wise they are the best
I think this is where we stop now before the tangents get too much.
D
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In England they are go into a scratch comp I think at Frilford last year - there was talk of making it a UK wide comp
Never known it any differently either, especially knockout to decide the overall winner. We do run a handicap prize in conjunction to the gross (club championship) t make it encompassing for all the members otherwise we'd have fields of a doze n or slo players. hardly ideal for the showpiece weekend of the club calendar.
As we have a cut after the Saturday round, there's usually a fair degree of banter after the round about who may or may not have survived the axe which adds to the fun. Players go out on Sunday in reverse score order (nett) and prize giving done the same day. Works really well
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
OK, we'll end it there because your club champs is typically won by the best golfer at the club (ironically making it pretty pointless for anyone else to enter)
