Busted. A Cheat Caught

[Golfloveruk]

People from a plus handicap can play alongside someone with a 20 plus HC

You’ve hit the nail on the head there!

Play with. Not compete with!!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

You’ve hit the nail on the head there!

Play with. Not compete with!!

Well the HC system does allow them to “compete” together - providing the HCs are genuine

 

[HomerJSimpson]

You’ve hit the nail on the head there!

Play with. Not compete with!!

Why not "compete"

We have a monthly stableford coming up and we have people from scratch to 15 competing in division 1 (and the higher handicaps i division 2) and it will be the best score that wins. Therefore I am competing against everyone to win

 

[Orikoru]

…in your opinion


Why haven’t other sports taken up something akin to a handicap system at amateur level — tennis, badminton, squash, football, rugby, whatever you want to name, golf is alone in this..

Would you not play golf, and would the appeal of golf not be there for you, without handicapped golf comps?!

I literally wouldn’t care if all comps were based on gross scoring. I play in as many comps as I can, gross and handicapped, but the appeal of golf for me has nothing to do with attempting to ‘win’ a nett comp

I'm with Arthur on this one. You take away handicaps and there would be no reason at all for 95% of golfers to enter their weekly competition, since they'd have no chance of winning. Competition play is a big part of club membership, so membership numbers would undoubtedly drop and clubs lose money as a result.

Can you really have handicaps in something like tennis which is one v one rather than each person against the course? As AW says, leagues and divisions are the way they achieve it I would think.

 

[clubchamp98]

I'm with Arthur on this one. You take away handicaps and there would be no reason at all for 95% of golfers to enter their weekly competition, since they'd have no chance of winning. Competition play is a big part of club membership, so membership numbers would undoubtedly drop and clubs lose money as a result.

Can you really have handicaps in something like tennis which is one v one rather than each person against the course? As AW says, leagues and divisions are the way they achieve it I would think.

Handicaps in sports where you share a ball or balls don’t work imo.

It works in golf because nobody can touch your ball except you.

In snooker if your op snookers you with a great shot or safety shot there’s not much you can do.
I play my mate now and again but am there to just make the numbers up.
He had a break of 87 last week I have never shot that in a whole frame.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Handicaps in sports where you share a ball or balls don’t work imo.

It works in golf because nobody can touch your ball except you.

In snooker if your op snookers you with a great shot or safety shot there’s not much you can do.
I play my mate now and again but am there to just make the numbers up.
He had a break of 87 last week I have never shot that in a whole frame.

In theory you can have x black start so it can be handicapped

 

[HampshireHog]

I imagine any sport where your performance isn’t determined by the other player could be handicapped.

Darts, cycling, running…

 

[Orikoru]

I imagine any sport where your performance isn’t determined by the other player could be handicapped.

Darts, cycling, running…

Would love to see the Olympic running handicapped, Noah Lyles having weights tied around his ankles.

 

[3 jabber]

I can't wait to read the full story in the Ascot Daily Echo

 

[Backache]

I think the real strength of handicapping in golf is in match play.
It allows people of different abilities a really competitive game together and the problem of the greater variance amongst high handicappers does not lead to them winning as often

 

[D-S]

As alluded to earlier, the 0.1 limit increase under the UHS caused many players to appear to have vanity handicaps. This wasn't helped by some clubs not even bothering with an annual review and some players refusing increases 'whilst they got their game together'.

How can you refuse an increase? Did they appeal to the County? That’s the only way I know of overturning such a decision.

 

[Old Colner]

In theory you can have x black start so it can be handicapped

Local snooker league, all players have a handicap, it's based on ability and each player has points on the board before the game starts, like golf most players moan about he has too many or I have not enough.

 

[doublebogey7]

…in your opinion


Why haven’t other sports taken up something akin to a handicap system at amateur level — tennis, badminton, squash, football, rugby, whatever you want to name, golf is alone in this..

Would you not play golf, and would the appeal of golf not be there for you, without handicapped golf comps?!

I literally wouldn’t care if all comps were based on gross scoring. I play in as many comps as I can, gross and handicapped, but the appeal of golf for me has nothing to do with attempting to ‘win’ a nett comp

The team sports you mention do have a form of handicapping i.e. leagues/divisions.

The other sports have very little in the way of competition at club level and where they do hardly any money changes hands. Golf is the second most popular competitive sport, after Football, in the UK for a reason

 

[Morfeen75]

I can't wait to read the full story in the Ascot Daily Echo

Hopefully the reporter has done his own thorough investigation and not copy and pasted this thread

 

[Crazyface]

what is iPlay ?

scratch that...i've found it. Didnt realise it was an EG thing and I am utterly astonished that EG themselves provide a facility whereby a player who is not a member of any club can give himself a degree of legitimacy by signing up for the service and can attest to others scores.....now that is madness.

What!? You have got to be joking surely.

 

[Crazyface]

Indeed you don't. Took me about 45 seconds to create an iPlay account using a false ID.. Now I can self attest all those evening rounds that I play on my own and the authorities have given me the tools to do so.

I support a lot about the WHS but do agree there are things that can be tweaked...but this sort of "enablement opportunity" is just staggering.

Wow...just.....wow

 

[rulefan]

How can you refuse an increase? Did they appeal to the County? That’s the only way I know of overturning such a decision.

This was obviously pre-WHS. The old process often involved discussing proposed changes with the member involved but there was no requirement to inform the County one way or another

 

[clubchamp98]

In theory you can have x black start so it can be handicapped

Yes I get that .
But if your OPP is good enough he can put you in so much trouble with almost every shot.
No lead would be good enough. Within reason.

 

[D-S]

This was obviously pre-WHS. The old process often involved discussing proposed changes with the member involved but there was no requirement to inform the County one way or another

Yes but under WHS no one could refuse a handicap adjustment as you stated, if they did their only recourse was to the County as is the case now.

 

[AussieKB]

I think the real strength of handicapping in golf is in match play.
It allows people of different abilities a really competitive game together and the problem of the greater variance amongst high handicappers does not lead to them winning as often

In OZ we give FULL difference in handicap, I played yesterday and had to give 16 shots......
not a lot of fun for me.