Take 100 people and they would say the Old Course is a top 5 course in the UK, it isn't a top 5 course in St Andrews.
Take 100 people and they would say the Old Course is a top 5 course in the UK, it isn't a top 5 course in St Andrews.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Always is subjective, all reviews are. I believe my opinion is likely to be shared by many.
Do you disagree?
I'm not arguing with you, for one, I've never play Blairgowrie, two, I loved playing Ladybank, but....
NWJocko
Tour Winner
Where did the Old Course come into it!?
I get you're defensive about you're own club but, tbh, saying TOC isn't Top 5 in St Andrews is laughable!! :rofl: Maybe not the best and I'd agree with you but what 5 are better?
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Name 5 in St Andrews that are better.
I get you're defensive about you're own club but, tbh, saying TOC isn't Top 5 in St Andrews is laughable!! :rofl: Maybe not the best and I'd agree with you but what 5 are better?[/QUOTE]
I'm not getting defensive, I said Ladybank is ace, the top 5 comment is flippant but the New is a better course, some say the Jube is better than both, I've never played the Castle but apparently it's ace. Fairmont/Kittocks all better than the Old....
I'm not getting defensive, I said Ladybank is ace, the top 5 comment is flippant but the New is a better course, some say the Jube is better than both, I've never played the Castle but apparently it's ace. Fairmont/Kittocks all better than the Old....
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Yup, I actually like Formby and has some great holes on it, especially the run from 5-9.
The first 2-3 are just ok, but the 18th is a poor finishing hole. It is in a stunning setting, but I just love other courses more.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
We’ll take it from those who have played it, Blairgowrie is different gravy from both Downfield and Ladybank. Call it subjective if you like but I can assure you, few if any will disagree.
NWJocko
Tour Winner
I'm not getting defensive, I said Ladybank is ace, the top 5 comment is flippant but the New is a better course, some say the Jube is better than both, I've never played the Castle but apparently it's ace. Fairmont/Kittocks all better than the Old....[/QUOTE]
New is the best course on that bit of land I'd agree.
Jube isn't better IMO, tighter but much more of an obvious test rather than the subtlety of TOC IMO.
Castle is a great course but a bit "American" links, it's very similar to Castle Stuart but better.
Fairmont, do me a favour :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm not getting defensive, I said Ladybank is ace, the top 5 comment is flippant but the New is a better course, some say the Jube is better than both, I've never played the Castle but apparently it's ace. Fairmont/Kittocks all better than the Old....[/QUOTE]
I’ve never played the Old but I’ve been around it often enough to get a feel for it, I have however played all the others and the Jubilee and New would be better courses but not necessarily a better golf experience.
Fairmont courses better the TOC? Your at it, if they weren’t in St Andrews you’d get on the for £50 a day
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Only played Downfield once (in May) and it was absolutely saturated. Plugged balls and mud balls galore. Was a nice track to be fair but both Ladybank and Scotscraig are nicer tracks IMO.
I'd like to return to Downfield when the course is dry.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
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KenL
Tour Rookie
I played the Old and the New on consecutive days. I thought the New was great but the Old is a much better course. Much more interesting without being stupid.
I've not played Ladybank or Scotscraig so need to look out for an open.
Downfield is parkland, it will therefore be wet if there has been a lot of rain like all parkland courses.
I've not played Ladybank or Scotscraig so need to look out for an open.
Downfield is parkland, it will therefore be wet if there has been a lot of rain like all parkland courses.
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mashleyR7
Journeyman Pro
Not every links course uses matts, in fact i've never played one that has in the south. Maybe it's a more need for northern links courses?? I wasn't sure on the 2 ball thing too when I joined but actually it's meant Ive met more members in a quick space of time and the time of a round is much much quicker which is a good thing, even though the actual pace of my game hasn't sped up.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Only course I know that won't allow 4 ball in the afternoon is Muirfield.
Junior
Tour Winner
Bearwood Lakes is probably my favourite. I never realised until reading this thread that Wentworth West was heathland. Id have it as Parkland all day long. I'd also class Sunningdale as heathland.
I'm also in the minority on here when I say I really enjoy the Belfry (Brabazon) too. I think in the middle of Summer, it's condition and greens are outstanding. Don't shoot me but I also like the PGA National!!
Another that jumps out..... Mere GC in the NW.
It's actually surprising how few spring to mind. Others of note would be
I'm also in the minority on here when I say I really enjoy the Belfry (Brabazon) too. I think in the middle of Summer, it's condition and greens are outstanding. Don't shoot me but I also like the PGA National!!
Another that jumps out..... Mere GC in the NW.
It's actually surprising how few spring to mind. Others of note would be
same here we played it in our autumn Jolly a couple of years ago and it was a slog, some good holes but wet and long from the back tee. I don't think i hit anything less than a 5 iron for my 2nd until somewhere on the back 9. there was one strange hole where it was dog let right but only about 30 yards at right angles.
like to give it another go though dry this time
If there is interest I can get a game sorted for those who would like a hack round later this year.
i'd be up for it, work for HIAL so get down to Dundee a few times a year.
long old course though wasn't anything under 400 yards until the 15th, one of the few occasions we regretted playing from the whites
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