Andy Murray Retiring Soon

[Jacko_G]

I'd argue Farah is more of a sportsman than Redgrave and a far better shout than him.

If you want to argue Olympians then you can't omit Hoy either who has won more than the rower and Farah.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Minority sport with about 4 other competitors worldwide.

As I say it's all about opinions and mine is Sir Andy is top of the tree. Without a shadow of doubt.

Two insults in the one thread - not sure how I'll sleep tonight.

Yes it is about opinions and you are entitled to yours.

However the first bit of your post isn't an opinion, it's a lack of knowledge.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I'd argue Farah is more of a sportsman than Redgrave and a far better shout than him.

Redgrave just sits in a boat and Farah just runs

 

[Jacko_G]

Redgrave just sits in a boat and Farah just runs

Far greater competition.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Far greater competition.

Now you are just showing your lack of knowledge about rowing.

 

[Jacko_G]

Now you are just showing your lack of knowledge about rowing.

Oh dear. 🙄

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'd argue Farah is more of a sportsman than Redgrave and a far better shout than him.

If you want to argue Olympians then you can't omit Hoy either who has won more than the rower and Farah.

Hoy was mentioned earlier as well - but Hoy has an advantage same with Farah they can compete for multiple golds over one games - Hoy won 6 over three games ,( same with people like Kenneynand Wiggins ) Redgrave won 5 over 5 - that’s not been done by anyone else ever in the world.

Can never under state winning a gold in 5 Olympic Games

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Dont think there's as many sports thats as elitest as tennis, it even makes golf look positively common.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Dont think there's as many sports thats as elitest as tennis, it even makes golf look positively common.

What about rowing? Only 4 other competitors worldwide apparently

 

[TheDiablo]

Minority sport ? Tennis is also a minority sport - the participation levels won’t be far different , Redgrave was consistent over a 20 year period - as well as his 5 Olympic Golds you add in about 9 world championships as well

What about Farah - not a minority sport , 19 gold medals 5 Olympic , 6 world champs beating the best in the world consistently on the biggest stage

Tennis a minority sport with similar participation levels to rowing? Clueless!

For me, the greatest UK athlete of all time has to be someone who plays a truly global sport and is truly world class in their era.

Not many tick those boxes, but Murray certainly does. Farah and Daley Thompson definitely others, but beyond that I'm struggling, we've not really been that blessed with as much talent in the major global sports as people would like to believe.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

For me, the greatest UK athlete of all time has to be someone who plays a truly global sport and is truly world class in their era.

Not many tick those boxes, but Murray certainly does. Farah and Daley Thompson definitely others, but beyond that I'm struggling, we've not really been that blessed with as much talent in the major global sports as people would like to believe.

No love for Faldo then?

 

[USER1999]

I'd argue Farah is more of a sportsman than Redgrave and a far better shout than him.

If you want to argue Olympians then you can't omit Hoy either who has won more than the rower and Farah.

Yeah, but Hoy just sits on a bike.

 

[TheDiablo]

No love for Faldo then?

Massive respect for him but not quite with the other 3. Golf has significant barriers to entry, is traditionally played in rich countries and mass participation numbers come as a result of people finding golf later in life.

Globally, as a junior sport it would be a minority one and that's why he doesn't quite fit my criteria. I fully accept that's my subjective criteria though and Faldo would certainly be in my top 10

 

[ColchesterFC]

I would also add a certain Tony McCoy to the list - his achievements are something that imo won’t ever be topped in the sport

He won't let you have Tony McCoy. He "just sits on a horse".

 

[Jacko_G]

Now you are just showing your lack of knowledge about rowing.

Just to further scorn your nonsense.


https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world-by-participation/

 

[Jacko_G]

He won't let you have Tony McCoy. He "just sits on a horse".

Absolutely spot on, the horse does the work!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Massive respect for him but not quite with the other 3. Golf has significant barriers to entry, is traditionally played in rich countries and mass participation numbers come as a result of people finding golf later in life.

Globally, as a junior sport it would be a minority one and that's why he doesn't quite fit my criteria. I fully accept that's my subjective criteria though and Faldo would certainly be in my top 10

This is a debate with no answer but to throw my hat in, you talk about barriers:
Redgrave, How many people have access to rowing, in this country or other?
Murray, tennis is as elitist as golf
Hoy, how many people in this or any country have access to a velodrome?

British Olympic association have been really smart at throwing money at minority sports that enable us to medal well. Well done them but participation around the world has to be taken into account when judging how good people are.

I'll throw a fun one in, Joe Calzaghe. World champion, unbeaten. Can't do much more than that.

I don't think we have a clear greatest ever, no one has mentioned any team sports players so far, but we have some crackers for a general top 10.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Just to further scorn your nonsense.


https://www.pledgesports.org/2017/06/top-10-most-popular-sports-in-the-world-by-participation/

What's your point? It only shows the top 10 sports out of hundreds. Cycling, fishing, rugby, rowing, running......there are loads more that have millions of participants.

Now, you get busy on Google and find a better answer.

 

[MegaSteve]

With fifty nations listed as having won medals at rowing world championships I'd say that's reasonable evidence to indicate it's a 'global' sport...

 

[USER1999]

With fifty nations listed as having won medals at rowing world championships I'd say that's reasonable evidence to indicate it's a 'global' sport...

Do the same 4 or 5 athletes just keep changing passports?