Andy Murray Retiring Soon

I dont see why he couldn't recover. He's extremely fit going into surgery, they will have got him up and walking the same day. I played 9 holes 3 weeks after my first resurface and 5 weeks with the second one, I realise there's little comparison but a lot of the desire to play/or fear of playing will be in his head.
It's just a personal point of view and I accept he's a fantastic athlete and very fit and will get through rehab. It's more the workload and stresses on the hip once he gets back on tour I'm worried about
 
It's just a personal point of view and I accept he's a fantastic athlete and very fit and will get through rehab. It's more the workload and stresses on the hip once he gets back on tour I'm worried about

I'm fairly sure that so long as the bone that the the two parts of the resurfaces fit to, is ok, he'll be absolutely fine
 
I'm fairly sure that so long as the bone that the the two parts of the resurfaces fit to, is ok, he'll be absolutely fine
It's not that simple. Having had it resurfaced he's now on borrowed time before he gets a more invasive hip replacement. If he stays playing elite tennis he'll be wearing out his existing bone structure much more quickly than a "normal" patient.
 
It's not that simple. Having had it resurfaced he's now on borrowed time before he gets a more invasive hip replacement. If he stays playing elite tennis he'll be wearing out his existing bone structure much more quickly than a "normal" patient.

Are you an expert in these matters?
 
Are you an expert in these matters?

I've spent over nine years working in medical classification including extensive work with orthopaedic surgeons to help them best plan routine surgery such as total hip replacements, partial replacements, resurfacing and more recently labral repairs to try and stave off the initial replacement. The longer they can hold off the primary surgery, the longer the patient has overall with maximum mobility. In an elite athlete, this is a massive surgery and he would struggle to play at the previous standard because he'll never have the same rotation in the hip ever again. Ultimately, this resurfacing will be upgraded to a hip replacement. Whether that's in five years, ten years, etc will largely depend on how much he puts it through but he's now losing bone mass from his acetabulum (aka developing higher grade arthritis) at a greater rate that he would have been with his natural femoral head.
 
I've spent over nine years working in medical classification including extensive work with orthopaedic surgeons to help them best plan routine surgery such as total hip replacements, partial replacements, resurfacing and more recently labral repairs to try and stave off the initial replacement. The longer they can hold off the primary surgery, the longer the patient has overall with maximum mobility. In an elite athlete, this is a massive surgery and he would struggle to play at the previous standard because he'll never have the same rotation in the hip ever again. Ultimately, this resurfacing will be upgraded to a hip replacement. Whether that's in five years, ten years, etc will largely depend on how much he puts it through but he's now losing bone mass from his acetabulum (aka developing higher grade arthritis) at a greater rate that he would have been with his natural femoral head.
So yes then?! :ROFLMAO:
 
I'm fairly sure that so long as the bone that the the two parts of the resurfaces fit to, is ok, he'll be absolutely fine

There's quite a list of professional sports people who've had it done and returned to compete in their respective sports. I wouldn't say that a NHL player is sedentary, nor someone who does a 50 mile mountain bike comp through the Ozark mountains. A MLB pitcher, an Olympic Tai Kwon do champion. One guy went on to run a marathon not long after, and then did well in the World Ultraman Championships.

Its possible, a bit like Tiger Woods and his back surgery.
 
There's quite a list of professional sports people who've had it done and returned to compete in their respective sports. I wouldn't say that a NHL player is sedentary, nor someone who does a 50 mile mountain bike comp through the Ozark mountains. A MLB pitcher, an Olympic Tai Kwon do champion. One guy went on to run a marathon not long after, and then did well in the World Ultraman Championships.

Its possible, a bit like Tiger Woods and his back surgery.

I think Andy Murray could at least return to play tournaments to prepare and get fit enough to go for the big farewell at Wimbledon

I've spent over nine years working in medical classification including extensive work with orthopaedic surgeons to help them best plan routine surgery such as total hip replacements, partial replacements, resurfacing and more recently labral repairs to try and stave off the initial replacement. The longer they can hold off the primary surgery, the longer the patient has overall with maximum mobility. In an elite athlete, this is a massive surgery and he would struggle to play at the previous standard because he'll never have the same rotation in the hip ever again. Ultimately, this resurfacing will be upgraded to a hip replacement. Whether that's in five years, ten years, etc will largely depend on how much he puts it through but he's now losing bone mass from his acetabulum (aka developing higher grade arthritis) at a greater rate that he would have been with his natural femoral head.

So what you are saying is that my quest to play on the Seniors Tour, once I get my handicap down to scratch from 12, is likely to be hampered by my 2 resurfaces and reconstructed left knee - thanks for breaking the news so gently 🤔🤔
 
I think Andy Murray could at least return to play tournaments to prepare and get fit enough to go for the big farewell at Wimbledon



So what you are saying is that my quest to play on the Seniors Tour, once I get my handicap down to scratch from 12, is likely to be hampered by my 2 resurfaces and reconstructed left knee - thanks for breaking the news so gently 🤔🤔

I think as long as he say's he's fit, the'll get a wildcard if required to Wimbledon. Whether that's right or not is another discussion, but iof the last 18 months is anything to go buy. His big farewell will be in week one.
 
So what you are saying is that my quest to play on the Seniors Tour, once I get my handicap down to scratch from 12, is likely to be hampered by my 2 resurfaces and reconstructed left knee - thanks for breaking the news so gently 🤔🤔

You forgot to mention your undoubted talent Chris:rolleyes:
 
Federer has altered the perception of how long you can play at the top level in tennis, a few like Andy looking on thinking 'if he can do it so can I'. Amazing drive these people have, rich enough to retire at 25 but most (Borg apart) want to go on and on. Does the endless grind of airports/hotels/practice/press conferences/matches/physio etc etc not wear off after 15 years? Is it money driven or trophy driven? With Murray I think it's a trophy/career thing.
 
Federer has altered the perception of how long you can play at the top level in tennis, a few like Andy looking on thinking 'if he can do it so can I'. Amazing drive these people have, rich enough to retire at 25 but most (Borg apart) want to go on and on. Does the endless grind of airports/hotels/practice/press conferences/matches/physio etc etc not wear off after 15 years? Is it money driven or trophy driven? With Murray I think it's a trophy/career thing.

I think the way Federer plays has a major part on his heath and lack of massive injuries too. He’s graceful and generally his sets are over quicker. I don’t expect many to play as long as he does. Also helps that during his Pomo he was so much better than the rest that he one easily on multiple occasions.
 
I think the way Federer plays has a major part on his heath and lack of massive injuries too. He’s graceful and generally his sets are over quicker. I don’t expect many to play as long as he does. Also helps that during his Pomo he was so much better than the rest that he one easily on multiple occasions.
Agree hugely with this regarding the style of Federer. He glides over the court. He is not making jarring and stamping movements, he is almost balletic. If you look at Murray, Nadal even more, they are far more violent in their shot making and movement around the court. It is inevitable that their joints will suffer eventually.

In terms of desire to go on, it is impressive. The tennis tour really is a grind and you would think the edge would start to go after the amount of time someone like Federer has been going.
 
Agree hugely with this regarding the style of Federer. He glides over the court. He is not making jarring and stamping movements, he is almost balletic. If you look at Murray, Nadal even more, they are far more violent in their shot making and movement around the court. It is inevitable that their joints will suffer eventually.

In terms of desire to go on, it is impressive. The tennis tour really is a grind and you would think the edge would start to go after the amount of time someone like Federer has been going.

I think he came close to retiring a few years ago, then with some rivals getting injured he fancied his chances against the best of the rest. At the same time, his style clearly changed as he went back to a more serve and volley style, knowing he couldn’t keep up for 5 sets over a 2 week period.
 
Roger is simply the best and does glide over the court..whilst most of the others really force the ball...Nadal included...but he is a special case..........I can not see the others lasting as long as Roger. I play regular tennis...no where near the pros...like no where.....but my game is centred around a good serve and getting it back...less errors..and relying on the other side to make an error....however the likes of Roger etc are able to win a point at any moment and make very few errors...it is pure poetry in motion...we are truly blessed with his talent but will only truly appreciate him when he has long retired.
 
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