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It’s just such a shame that they’re virtually all Americans though. It’s not good for the game having one country dominate so much, in an era where the sport is more globalised than ever.

It’s just crazy to see how many majors they’ve won since 2015, and how many US players stack the leaderboards, compared to other countries.

It’s mindset for me. The Yanks are brought up from a young age to believe that winning is everything and trumps all else.


Looking at the wiki major winners table is eye-opening 🤯
That's part of it (& the sheer numbers), but also home advantage. They've usually also played the (US) courses many more times than the international players
 

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It's a number's game, half the golf courses in the world are in the U.S.A. so probably half the players also. There's probably no other sport in the world that have half of the participants.

True. I do think the recent high number of top players emerging from the USA is likely due to the Tiger Boom.

Born in the 90s and early 00s; children at a time when he was at his peak. So stands to reason this conveyor belt of talent may soon be coming to an end, at least at the rates we’ve seen them emerge.

Conversely, hopefully Europe’s Ryder Cup and major successes this century will hopefully inspire many young people to become great golfers for us in the coming years.
 

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That's part of it (& the sheer numbers), but also home advantage. They've usually also played the (US) courses many more times than the international players
Agree with the home advantage point. Being able to play almost all major tournaments in your own country is a significant advantage.

The Open may be played on links, but it’s notable that it’s the one major which long term has produced a variety of champions from all over, even in this recent era of US dominance.

Of the WGCs, the WGC Champions, the only one which was consistently played outside the USA, also had a much more diverse array of winners. Interesting that 🤔
 

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Missed that! So he hit the fairway, but then did what exactly?

Went long with his approach into the back bunker and couldn’t get up and down. Not the best start, although I do hear what Rich Beem says when he suggests that, for Rory to have any chance this weekend, he really needs to go flag hunting.

Disappointing, given he probably only had a wedge in.
 

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Agree with the home advantage point. Being able to play almost all major tournaments in your own country is a significant advantage.

The Open may be played on links, but it’s notable that it’s the one major which long term has produced a variety of champions from all over, even in this recent era of US dominance.
Since 1960 there have been 63 Opens and the Yanks have won 33 of them, so still quite dominant. I think the numbers thing is probably correct.
 

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Went long with his approach into the back bunker and couldn’t get up and down. Not the best start, although I do hear what Rich Beem says when he suggests that, for Rory to have any chance this weekend, he really needs to go flag hunting.

Disappointing, given he probably only had a wedge in.

I was baffled by his performance yesterday.

Thursday every aspect of his game was great — except his driving. He’d obviously done some work as Friday it was good. Yet his irons were average, leaving him plenty of 10-20 foot putts, but few closer ones. Missing those likely lead to frustration and then that double at 12.

Fundamentally though, if he’d had a bogey at 12, and given he was greenside in two, he should have, then that plus taking one of his 10 footers, plus the par 5 10th and he’s -8 with his one bad round out of the way.

Really needs to learn patience tbh, as it’s killing him.
 

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Since 1960 there have been 63 Opens and the Yanks have won 33 of them, so still quite dominant. I think the numbers thing is probably correct.
True. But 17/34 since 1990 have been non-American, and that includes Tiger winning three, plus a number of occasions (eg Ben Curtis! Todd Hamilton! Westwood in 2009 & 2013) where Euros or Internationals have let it slip when they should’ve won.

Non-Yanks have also won 10 out of the last 16, since Paddy won his first.

So maybe it’s getting more competitive in this era. Slowly…
 

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