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I have to ask; this Rick Shiels Titleist fitting video - what happened?
He explained it in a recent video on the HIT channel, and we discussed it in this thread on the previous page, I think. Essentially he just waffled some excuses though. The explanation wasn't anything we didn't expect.
 

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I watch quite a lot of golf from the UK on YouTube,
and one thing stands out to me.

I love the look of most of the UK courses that I see...they're really visually stunning.
The greens, however, seemed to be carved from green marble.

NOTHING checks up on them.
EVERYTHING releases BIG.
If you actually land your ball on the green, you're very lucky if it holds the back edge.
As for a ball backing up, forget about it entirely.

It's an entirely different way of playing golf.
My short game technique would be less than useless.

Don't balls spin in the UK atmosphere,
or are your greens mineral rather than organic?
 

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I watch quite a lot of golf from the UK on YouTube,
and one thing stands out to me.

I love the look of most of the UK courses that I see...they're really visually stunning.
The greens, however, seemed to be carved from green marble.

NOTHING checks up on them.
EVERYTHING releases BIG.
If you actually land your ball on the green, you're very lucky if it holds the back edge.
As for a ball backing up, forget about it entirely.

It's an entirely different way of playing golf.
My short game technique would be less than useless.

Don't balls spin in the UK atmosphere,
or are your greens mineral rather than organic?

Are the people you are watching good enough to get the spin? I can’t say I’ve noticed a lack of “action” on the ball when watching the better players on YouTube
 

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I watch quite a lot of golf from the UK on YouTube,
and one thing stands out to me.

I love the look of most of the UK courses that I see...they're really visually stunning.
The greens, however, seemed to be carved from green marble.

NOTHING checks up on them.
EVERYTHING releases BIG.
If you actually land your ball on the green, you're very lucky if it holds the back edge.
As for a ball backing up, forget about it entirely.

It's an entirely different way of playing golf.
My short game technique would be less than useless.

Don't balls spin in the UK atmosphere,
or are your greens mineral rather than organic?

American greens are heavily watered and so balls will stop.

Sadly this is being demanded by many UK golfers now and so our greens are also becoming soft puddings that will hold any ball hit with a modicum of spin or a high descent angle.
 

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Are the people you are watching good enough to get the spin? I can’t say I’ve noticed a lack of “action” on the ball when watching the better players on YouTube
I'll put it this way.
On most greens in my area, it takes less skill to hold greens hit on the fly.

The grooves rule changed about fifteen years ago, and the USGA, even more so than the R&A,
claimed that average recreational players wouldn't even notice.

That was a bald-faced lie.
I could spin less expensive surlyn/ionomer-covered balls with the box grooves.
Now, only premium urethane-covered balls give adequate green holding spin.
And not always in Britain, it seems.

Of course, now they're saying that the new ball restrictions won't be noticed by recreational players either.
This time, we'll know enough not to believe them.

But I've strayed off topic.
To me, on television, at least, the UK greens are harder,
and even the pitch marks don't look as deep as the ones I make at my own club.

When I was younger, Brits played with a smaller, 1.62" diameter ball.
That was a better ball for windy links conditions, and I wonder how it would work in the modern, non-wound ball era.

But I imagine that a smaller ball like that would be harder to spin,
so Brits didn't play lawn dart golf for multiple reasons.
Not just harder greens come into to play, but more wind and smaller ball being factors as well.

Still, it's hard to imagine that a place with more rain would have harder greens.
Maybe it's the sandier soil, but you have lovely parkland courses as well..
 

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American greens are heavily watered and so balls will stop.

Sadly this is being demanded by many UK golfers now and so our greens are also becoming soft puddings that will hold any ball hit with a modicum of spin or a high descent angle.
Americans like to play the ball up in the air more than UK players seem to do.

Bump and run is definitely a classic skill,
but playing darts right at the stick is also a skill.
 
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Watching Grant Horavats best kids in age group video. 9,10,11,12,14,15 years old .. it’s impressive! His teeth are like Mr Ed’s after a trip to Turkey .. scary!?!
 

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Like the old days except both are caricatures of their original youtube personas

I think the main difference is that the early ones were more spontaneous, just two blokes and a camera and focus mainly on the golf.

Now it all seems a bit scripted, sideways glances at camera, not quite off the cuff remarks, a big crew getting all the angles, and probably taking an age to film and edit the whole thing.

I still enjoyed this one though.
 
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I think the main difference is that the early ones were more spontaneous, just two blokes and a camera and focus mainly on the golf.

Now it all seems a bit scripted, sideways glances at camera, not quite off the cuff remarks, a big crew getting all the angles, and probably taking an age to film and edit the whole thing.

I shill enjoyed this one though.
Even when we filmed at H4H it was all camera down, press the button and go. As you say like mini-movies these days
 

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I never followed Seb on Golf before but he's put together some epic content here, it has to be said.


Watched it last night - it's a long one though! Quite literally movie-length. The two f0rebr0thers lads having to get the train was a highlight. :LOL:
 
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