Winter Golf and Handicap

[2blue]

To continue playing in a measured (ie Q Comps) & satisfying way there have to be answers to the issues Winter presents-
1. Reduced roll - GET A SHORTENED COURSE RATED - big hitters drives don't run into trouble & ensure short irions into greens.
2. Bobbly greens - CHIP IT CLOSER - soft greens mean target golf for the low H/cappers
3. Wet fairways difficult to play off - GET A SPURK MAT -
4. H'caps may go up - & DOWN FOR THOSE WHO PLAY WELL - Will not be a problem if everyone plays rather than protecting a vanity H/cap

It's where we are though there are still those who are asking for the course to be closed as they think that damage is happening when they see visible footprints showing on the very wet General Area. Strange as a day or so later they've gone.
Answer - just let the scores sort out the H/cap & stop complicating things....... golf is a Year-Round game

 

[Golfnut1957]

Back in the U.K., in the northeast of England, I played comps all year. Why? Because I loved playing golf, especially with mates. The handicap takes care of itself. It might go up and it might go down but that’s way down the list after playing golf with friends. And pretty much everyone else’s handicap does the same. There’s no loss of competitiveness. So why not just play?

If it’s the grotty weather, fine, don’t play. But not playing to protect a handicap… that’s just bizarre.

We are just playing, and enjoying it, there are just no cards involved.

 

[Jigger]

I’d just settle for my course being open

 

[sjw]

No, that is not right. The course is either suitable for acceptable scores for handicapping or it isn't - there is no differentiation to be made between competition and general play. If the course is suitable, all competition rounds are considered pre-registered for handicapping and scores must be submitted.
If the mats are within reasonable range of the normal tees, it's perfectly fine as long as the overall length isn't reduced or increased by more than 100 yards.
Up to 2 temporary greens may be in play, as long as the holes are regulation, with the same 100 yard condition as above.

Ok, so out of interest, what happens if I rock up to play a round at a course that has been deemed unsuitable for qualifying competitions, and I open my app to submit a general play score?

 

[Swango1980]

Ok, so out of interest, what happens if I rock up to play a round at a course that has been deemed unsuitable for qualifying competitions, and I open my app to submit a general play score?

Pretty sure the club can disable it, so you can't do this?

 

[D-S]

Ok, so out of interest, what happens if I rock up to play a round at a course that has been deemed unsuitable for qualifying competitions, and I open my app to submit a general play score?

If the course is deemed unsuitable for qualifying golf by the club then they ‘turn off’ the tees in the WHS platform and they will not be available on the app.

 

[wjemather]

Ok, so out of interest, what happens if I rock up to play a round at a course that has been deemed unsuitable for qualifying competitions, and I open my app to submit a general play score?

You shouldn't see any tee markers available to pre-register because they should all have been marked inactive on the WHS system and hidden/disabled on the ISV.

 

[2blue]

We are just playing, and enjoying it, there are just no cards involved.

What... even in Competitions??

 

[sjw]

If the course is deemed unsuitable for qualifying golf by the club then they ‘turn off’ the tees in the WHS platform and they will not be available on the app.

You shouldn't see any tee markers available to pre-register because they should all have been marked inactive on the WHS system and hidden/disabled on the ISV.

Ok brill. FInal question then... is it a problem that the club declared a competition non-qualifying? Surely they can host a non-qualifying comp whenever they want?

 

[D-S]

Ok brill. FInal question then... is it a problem that the club declared a competition non-qualifying? Surely they can host a non-qualifying comp whenever they want?

Depends on the circumstances (reasons/logic) and the competition format - more details needed.

 

[wjemather]

Ok brill. FInal question then... is it a problem that the club declared a competition non-qualifying? Surely they can host a non-qualifying comp whenever they want?

Union affiliated clubs must adhere to the rules set by their handicapping authority; as such, they cannot simply (and unilaterally) declare a competition 'non-qualifying' (although technically, that terminology no longer exists).

Per the rules of handicapping, as administered within GB&I, all competition rounds that meet the necessary criteria - i.e. played in an acceptable format (individual stroke play), according to the rules of golf, and over a measured and rated course (for which the committee has not been authorised to suspend submission of scores for handicapping due to it being in exceptionally poor condition), etc. - are considered pre-registered for handicapping, and as such, scores must be submitted to WHS.

 

[IanM]

Common sense outbreak on South Wales!

Just had an email from the Club saying that there is an inspection at 7am tomorrow and if its open, the comp will non qualifying due to the conditions.

 

[KenL]

It's a well known fact.

Not where I play. Course is easier in the winter. Less bounce is a positive. Mats also make the game easier. A shot over a bunker off a mat is so easy compared to off a baked hard tight lie for most of us.

 

[wjemather]

Not where I play. Course is easier in the winter. Less bounce is a positive. Mats also make the game easier. A shot over a bunker off a mat is so easy compared to off a baked hard tight lie for most of us.

Mats are also a lot more forgiving when it comes to hitting the big ball before the small ball.

 

[IanM]

Not where I play. Course is easier in the winter. Less bounce is a positive. Mats also make the game easier. A shot over a bunker off a mat is so easy compared to off a baked hard tight lie for most of us.

Take away the mat, and play the same shot off a gooey mess, wet leaves and acorns and it's much harder!

 

[KenL]

Take away the mat, and play the same shot off a gooey mess, wet leaves and acorns and it's much harder!

Courses like that should be using mats.

 

[Golfnut1957]

What... even in Competitions??

As I said earlier we only have knockout comps in the winter, no medal. Our last qualifying comp was in September, the next will be in April.

 

[IanM]

Courses like that should be using mats.

They are virtually unheard of this far south!

 

[Captain_Black.]

Union affiliated clubs must adhere to the rules set by their handicapping authority; as such, they cannot simply (and unilaterally) declare a competition 'non-qualifying' (although technically, that terminology no longer exists).

Per the rules of handicapping, as administered within GB&I, all competition rounds that meet the necessary criteria - i.e. played in an acceptable format (individual stroke play), according to the rules of golf, and over a measured and rated course (for which the committee has not been authorised to suspend submission of scores for handicapping due to it being in exceptionally poor condition), etc. - are considered pre-registered for handicapping, and as such, scores must be submitted to WHS.

Not at my club.
We have at least 3 or 4 non qualifiers during the summer months.

 

[wjemather]

Not at my club.
We have at least 3 or 4 non qualifiers during the summer months.

For what reason(s)?