Because people come back to the car park, thanks their shoes off, bang them together to knock the dirt off, and make a mess of the car park. I was the difference at our club when people were allowed to change their shoes in the car park during COVID. It made a real mess.
So, do they now bang the dirt off in the clubhouse?
They stopped me from doing that in 1975, because I was making too much money. I offered to wash cars in the car park, but they wouldn't let me do that either.Don't you just give them to the guy on duty outside the locker room and collect them all nice and clean once you've changed
That's the beauty of a cheap club with a dirt and gravel car park. No locker room at ours.
No. There is a shoe cleaner outside the clubhouse door, so people clean it there. And they know they can't bang their shoes in the changing rooms, so they are more likely to use it. When changing the shoes in the car park, people can just walk straight off the course and bang their shoes in the car park to clean them. Of course, during Covid, you couldn't use the shoe blower. Now people could either forget, or just not bother. It's human nature.
Well, we had ours re-tarmaced and new spaces marked out a few years ago. And if you are a visitor coming to a club, first impressions can count. And even a nice clean car park helps in that.
That still doesn't answer the why, it's like you don't understand what I'm saying. Why not allow people to wear 'beach shorts' - they are just shorts that people may find comfortable. Sleeveless shirts - so what? Easier to swing in perhaps? I don't think many would be topless or in flip flops for long, not after the first time they've scratched their back up in a thorn bush or slipped on their backside on a slope from the dodgy footwear. As @Voyager EMH said earlier on, an advisory code on what's practical would make a hell of a let more sense than an officious code based on 'standards and traditions' of a bygone era.
I agree with most of this. I have lots of nice golf clothes - like you, from County Golf mostly! My club isn't too officious with it - on the website it does say tuck shirts in, but I never have and I've never been called out for it, so I don't think many are particularly bothered. They do make sure people take hats off in the clubhouse for some reason, but that's an old school tradition in all walks of life (i.e. restaurants would probably say the same) so not bothered about that.
Yeah, you're not getting it. I was asking for a logical reason. "Because we said so" isn't based on logic. I agree with a lot of @Backsticks assertions that dress codes were initiated as a class separator back when golf was for the well-to-do. To maintain them in this day and age is illogical, they should be long gone by now. Unless, again as Backsticks asserted - you secretly yearn for class separation still.Blimey - the why again is simple
Because that’s not what golf authorities, clubs , courses , driving ranges , players etc have deemed to be suitable clothing to play golf in
And I have seen plenty at local pay and playing topless etc - in fact recently at Belton Woods two group of lads topless etc
Can the why not be “looks” and standards ?
There doesn’t have to be a practical reason why - but you have been told the reason why clubs and authorities impose dress codes
If you turned up at a restaurant with beach shirts etc and they said no entry would you stand there constantly asking why ?
It’s got nothing to do with “class seperation” ?
Golf clubs have spent years and time removing those barriers
wearing shorts and a polo shirt isn’t about class - it’s about being presentable and personal pride for one thing
Clubs make rule - there logic is they don’t want to see people without tops , wearing football shirts , sleeveless tops , cut off jeans , jeans , beach shorts etc - as they don’t see it as both practicable or acceptable for the golf course - that’s their logic.
The same logic that shops , work places , restaurants, football clubs , sports facilities apply when they have a dress code
It isn't now - but it was when they were introduced. They still exist now because people want to uphold the traditions of the past. That's fine if you like to value those out of some sense of loyalty or jingoism. It just isn't logic. There is very little difference in appearance a golf polo and a smart polyester t-shirt now. As golf is a sport with athletic motion, there's no reason standard sporting attire shouldn't be allowed now, other than 'tradition' because 'that's the way it always was'.It’s got nothing to do with “class seperation” ?
Golf clubs have spent years and time removing those barriers
wearing shorts and a polo shirt isn’t about class - it’s about being presentable and personal pride for one thing
Clubs make rule - there logic is they don’t want to see people without tops , wearing football shirts , sleeveless tops , cut off jeans , jeans , beach shorts etc - as they don’t see it as both practicable or acceptable for the golf course - that’s their logic.
The same logic that shops , work places , restaurants, football clubs , sports facilities apply when they have a dress code
