mikejohnchapman
Challenge Tour Pro
I'm contemplating having to review these reports daily and then decide what to do.
If I were so inclined I would be heading for my drinks cupboard to ease the pain.
WHS & ISV Issues (Please post only if you are a handicap secretary or involved in admin at your club)
- Thread starter Old Skier
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If I were so inclined I would be heading for my drinks cupboard to ease the pain.
mikejohnchapman
Challenge Tour Pro
This only seems to be for the home club as the selection criteria are for our courses - not away.
2blue
Journeyman Pro
It really does make you ask the question... "Why would you not want your scores to count towards your handicap?"
The replies/reasons/excuses can be endless but in the end it really is just a measure of where your game is, so think of it as that & perhaps, time to stop being so precious.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
The report states “all courses” so I assumed it included away courses. Unfortunately the card I did away hit a glitch with IG and I’m still waiting for them to return the card So I can’t check.
rulefan
Tour Winner
"all courses" is often used when "all tees" is really meant.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
On the report there is a drop down menu which gives you “All courses” and “your named course”.
mikejohnchapman
Challenge Tour Pro
Not on mine it doesn't!
Having a look through a couple of days I can see scores registered by visitors on our course but not away scores for our members.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Its on mine but I don't think it works as I know of some scores entered at away courses not showing up in the report.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Very confusing Club V1 / howdidido issue when players entering scores after a competition.
When entering on phone, it used to be the default score was zero, and you moved the arrow button up to get your gross score. However, for the last few weeks / months, the default score is gross par, and you move the button up or down (or keep the same) to get the relevant score. If you blob a hole, for general play rounds if you change the score to zero, it askes if you started the hole or not. However, it does NOT ask this for a competition (as I blobbed a couple yesterday). It just lets you move on if you type zero. Now, this is not the issue, as it correctly gives me nett double (and perhaps if you don't start the hole, it asks you to type in *, but I cannot remember).
The confusing thing is the following. A member text me today to say his 3 blobs appear as nett Par on his WHS record. He told me that he entered scores on his phone. As he moved to each hole, the default score was zero. For his blobbed holes, he just left it at zero and moved on. His score was correct in the comp as expected, but his score wrong on WHS as by doing what he did, it must have assumed he never started the holes. Even more oddly, he has said he has also been presented with the screen before in which the default score is par (as it is for me), but yesterday for him the default scores were zero.
He is a fairly reliable witness, so I suspect there could well be something dodgy going on rather than him being an idiot. I checked all the other players in the field, and their scores on WHS seem fine.
When entering on phone, it used to be the default score was zero, and you moved the arrow button up to get your gross score. However, for the last few weeks / months, the default score is gross par, and you move the button up or down (or keep the same) to get the relevant score. If you blob a hole, for general play rounds if you change the score to zero, it askes if you started the hole or not. However, it does NOT ask this for a competition (as I blobbed a couple yesterday). It just lets you move on if you type zero. Now, this is not the issue, as it correctly gives me nett double (and perhaps if you don't start the hole, it asks you to type in *, but I cannot remember).
The confusing thing is the following. A member text me today to say his 3 blobs appear as nett Par on his WHS record. He told me that he entered scores on his phone. As he moved to each hole, the default score was zero. For his blobbed holes, he just left it at zero and moved on. His score was correct in the comp as expected, but his score wrong on WHS as by doing what he did, it must have assumed he never started the holes. Even more oddly, he has said he has also been presented with the screen before in which the default score is par (as it is for me), but yesterday for him the default scores were zero.
He is a fairly reliable witness, so I suspect there could well be something dodgy going on rather than him being an idiot. I checked all the other players in the field, and their scores on WHS seem fine.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Strange, if all the others are correct I would assume finger trouble.
Swango1980
Well-known member
That is what I thought. But he described in detail what he did, and that he had to change every single score up from a default zero, except for his blob holes.
Maybe there is a wire connection wrong in his brain and he is thinking back to months ago, but he is a little young to be having memory issues I'd have thought.
You may be right, but was wondering if he had an older version of howdidido on his phone or something noddy like that (albeit I suspect the HDID app just links to whatever current version they have)
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Personally think that if it’s a comp try and get the majority to use the PSI, less room for error and people were quite happy to use it in the past.
Swango1980
Well-known member
We will, though there are still a lot of people uncomfortable being inside club house for too long. And now they are used to using their phone, it will be hard to encourage them not to use it. A lot go straight home after finishing 18th, enter scores once they get home.
Incidentally, even if this player did have seem phone options as rest of us, any ideas how he could have put in a no score and indicate he never started hole? He clearly couldn't have typed in zero, so is there an option like * means hole not started? It seems weird that another dialogue box pops up asking you the question for a general play round, but does not for a competition round. Pretty inconsistent from the developers it seems
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Will have a look at the HDID app in more detail at the next comp as I’m normally in early and go straight to the PSI which is positioned by the patio doors.
Swango1980
Well-known member
So, I am not sure if I am missing something here, or there is a really stupid issue on the MyEG App. So much so, I've had a confused member phone me to try and figure out their handicap.
In the WHS Course Calculator Option, it tells you your Course Handicap for different courses. Except, it called it PLAYING handicap. So, the member phones me asking if this Playing Handicap includes the 95% allowance for singles stroke play.
Why on earth would it use Playing as the terminology when it should be COURSE handicap?
In the WHS Course Calculator Option, it tells you your Course Handicap for different courses. Except, it called it PLAYING handicap. So, the member phones me asking if this Playing Handicap includes the 95% allowance for singles stroke play.
Why on earth would it use Playing as the terminology when it should be COURSE handicap?
rulefan
Tour Winner
Have you tried it for yourself on your course?
nickjdavis
Head Pro
Can confirm that Swango is correct. Calculates your Course Handicap but calls it Playing Handicap. The 95% calculation is not included....indeed how could it be...the App doesnt know whether you are going to be playing singles, matchplay, 4BBB....all it can do is tell you your Course Handicfap.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Yes, I looked at it myself first to ensure the member was simply not mistaken
IanMcC
Well-known member
I can confirm that the Wales Golf app makes the same schoolboy error.
nickjdavis
Head Pro
I've emailed the WHS folks to see if they will change it.
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