rosecott
Money List Winner
He said the 2 players played most weeks. They couldn't play in QRs without an allocated CDH number.
WHS Handicap Index - Finally Revealed
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He said the 2 players played most weeks. They couldn't play in QRs without an allocated CDH number.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Problem is, all their scores up to now will not be included on their new CDH number. When I took over as handicap sec last year, I noticed one guy had no CDH number, so I assigned one. On WHS, only his scores are included from when that CDH was created, nothing from 2018. You may need to manually enter his scores if possible, perhaps after WHS goes live.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Get definitive advice from England Golf - you could screw everything up for yourself.
handicapping@englandgolf.org
mikejohnchapman
Challenge Tour Pro
True but DotGolf a New Zealand firm are running the software so it needs to be used by them. Hence I suspect the GDPR permissions they have been seeking recently. I doubt EG had permission to share your details with a third party.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Good advice.
After going through every golfer with a handicap, I noticed 2 brothers had their handicaps completely swapped in WHS. I discussed this with WHS. No idea what was going on, but I can only imagine the old handicap sec must have entered the wrong scores in for each player, and instead of redoing it, asked the owners to simply switch their names and contact details on the system. Sadly, CDH wouldn't have known that. This would have been pre-2014.
So, WHS said the best thing to do would be to swap their names and personal details back, before launch. It'll look weird for the players when their CONGU handicap changes, but will be as it should be once WHS is live.
It is weird stuff like that in which the WHS guys can give good advice. They must be busy.
rulefan
Tour Winner
No kidding! I've normally got an inside track but contact is difficult.
rosecott
Money List Winner
I asked this in another of my posts. How could his pre-2018 QR scores be processed without a CDH number?
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Why not, I’m pretty sure I can set a comp up and allow anyone to play in it as long as they have a handicap and you can have a handicap without a CDH No.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Really? I must lead a very regulated and sheltered life.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Club V1 happily worked out his handicap without a CDH. If you look at his record on Club V1, nothing looks unusual pre 2019. Except, none of these scores were being sent to CDH, and only way you'd notice is if you happened to be looking specifically for CDH number.
I cant remember what I had to do when I assigned one. Whether it just kept his handicap club V1 had worked out to that point, or whether I set it to match.
I suspect it is a bit of a flaw in Club V1. I'd have thought warning messages at least would remind these were missing.
IanMcC
Well-known member
My thoughts are, without contacting Wales Golf, if I create the CDH number now then all data will be pulled over on 1st November at midnight.
IanMcC
Well-known member
I will contact Wales golf to check though.
Tommy10
Active member
Scottish Golf app has updated, I got 19.2 as HI (down from CONGU 21.9) but I will still get 22/23 off the whites so no harm done. Happy to be under 20 with the index
Crazyface
Tour Winner
I'm expecting a big increase in mine,(2 shots at least). I've had some shocking scores at my new club do to it (I know now) being a tougher place to play.
Beedee
Assistant Pro
Just noticed that the medal rounds where I'd NR'ed haven't been included in my WHS rounds even though CONGU gave me the appropriate handicap adjustment (some 0.1s and some buffers). So my index should be a wee bit higher than the current suggestion.
Oh well, play a few more rounds and it will iron itself out in the end.
Oh well, play a few more rounds and it will iron itself out in the end.
azazel
Assistant Pro
Via the Scottish Golf app, my "projected" index is 4.3, which is close enough to the 4.2 I'd figured it out as. I'm aware that this won't be a definite index until Nov 2nd but I can't see it being too different.
The interesting thing is my course handicap will now be 6, against my "old" Congu handicap of 5.2. Only 0.3 out in practice but getting an extra shot on the same course my handicap was calculated on seems odd.
The interesting thing is my course handicap will now be 6, against my "old" Congu handicap of 5.2. Only 0.3 out in practice but getting an extra shot on the same course my handicap was calculated on seems odd.
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PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Think our course has been rated bit high
My index came back as 20.2
Off whites at my place would put me off 24
At royal portrush would be 22 lol don't think we are harder than an open venue
My index came back as 20.2
Off whites at my place would put me off 24
At royal portrush would be 22 lol don't think we are harder than an open venue
rulefan
Tour Winner
Remember the calculation principles are quite different. Ratchet vs Average. If all the 'old' national systems produced the same answer there would have been no reason to change.
Swango1980
Well-known member
You may well not be, what is the difference in Course Ratings?
I'd imagine Royal Portrush is very hard for scratch golfers, which could result in a lower Slope. Your club may be very easy for scratch golfers, but still fairly difficult for bogey golfers. That could give a higher Slope at your place, even though Royal Portrush is still, in an absolute sense, a more difficult test.
