chellie
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If I've already missed this apologies. Weren't they supposed to be "gender free" or the red tees rated for both men and women.
They can be however it appears most clubs opted for the current standards of men's and womens tees being assessed for their specific gender.
It can be changed but suspect it will happen after WHS introduction in most cases as a lot of money has been spent on cards, notices, etc.
A big missed opportunity in my opinion.
There is no charge to the club for rating. It just takes longer for the rating teams and may involve more individual raters if more tees are rated at the same time. Often the men's county union rate separately from the women's association (where counties have not merged). In both cases the counties incur additional expenses costs which ultimately go back to the clubs.Did they have to pay to have them rated? Would extra cost be used as an excuse?
Many clubs did in fact take the opportunity but most did not. When I queried clubs who chose not to, most had surveyed their members who were not in favour.If I've already missed this apologies. Weren't they supposed to be "gender free" or the red tees rated for both men and women.
Many clubs did in fact take the opportunity but most did not. When I queried clubs who chose not to, most had surveyed their members who were not in favour.
In practice, i found that many yellow courses had holes that were simply too long for the majority of women club players. In fact a fair number of clubs were introducing slightly shorter courses for their women. In addition, men being men said that the red tees were too short.
Having said that, I persuaded a number of our senior section to try the reds one day and many were surprised by how much the enjoyed it. We never had them rated though.
A few years ago we hosted an England women's matchplay international. The TD walked the course with me to plan tee and hole positions. I think about 10 were from the red course, the rest yellow with two white.
Any survey would have been run by the club. The county assessors would not be involved.I would have thought that playing off the reds would make the game more enjoyable for a lot of seniors. If a survey was done at ours I don't know anyone who was asked their opinion.
Any survey would have been run by the club. The county assessors would not be involved.
Depending on the county, they should be able to do one next year. I doubt if there would be time to organise one before the close season this year, effectively October - April/May.
If your place is anything like the clubs I've been a member of 'a survey of the members' is usually the 4 loudest, biggest drinkers giving their views and the secretary, manager etc believing they are representative ?. It's depressing how often that seems to be the case.I would have thought that playing off the reds would make the game more enjoyable for a lot of seniors. If a survey was done at ours I don't know anyone who was asked their opinion.
This, they said they didn’t have timeWhen our course was rated maybe 3 years ago the raters turned up, our handicap secretary asked if they were going to do all tees for all genders, and they just said no.
Depending on how many they were scheduled for and how many more were requested, that is a very likely response.This, they said they didn’t have time
They wouldn't if it hadn't been scheduled beforehand.When our course was rated maybe 3 years ago the raters turned up, our handicap secretary asked if they were going to do all tees for all genders, and they just said no.
They should have been done by now. There aren't that many left around the counties.now.Depends on the club. I believe my club is doing that.... fingers crossed!
It was said with due considerationOh oh, careful there
We're finally getting ours done on Thursday and as I understand it all tees will be rated for both genders ?They should have been done by now. There aren't that many left around the counties.now.
Check https://ncrdb.usga.org/
What county is that?Still not there, sadly. Very few courses round here rated yet it would seem.