upsidedown
Tour Winner
You keep throwing a curve ball by mentioning pro's and caddies. Caddies will always stand in front of their pro because they will be discussing club selection etc. We don't have caddies, so no need to worry about where we stand.
Re read , second question refers to us mere mortals. And anyway whats wrong with not taking a lead from what the professional tour does ( slow play not withstanding )