Tipping Etiquette

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Sorry but morally is bull dung

Your restaurants rip off their staff and expect everyone else to prop them up

Tipping door men for opening a door for you?

The whole thing is a joke

Nobody should feel obliged to tip

You're free to believe that, but bringing that attitude to America
will make you an unappreciated guest.

Again, I'll use the analogy to my coming to the UK and brandishing a firearm in the street.

Americans are expected to respect British standards in the UK.
The inverse if true as well.

 

[PJ87]

You're free to believe that, but bringing that attitude to America
will make you an unappreciated guest.

Again, I'll use the analogy to my coming to the UK and brandishing a firearm in the street.

Americans are expected to respect British standards in the UK.
The inverse if true as well.

It would make you a criminal.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

It would make you a criminal.

Not tipping would make you a cretin,
which urban, coastal Americans, at least, disrespect more than criminals.

You understand cultural differences.
This is just another one of those.
We're expected to act like proper guests in one another's nations.

Do you disagree with that?

Again, I'm not trying to justify your system or ours.
I'm not contradicting your logic behind tipping or not tipping.
I'm merely saying what is expected of you if you visit America.

You're abusing our restaurant workers if you don't tip
because that's how they get paid in America
and you do know that.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The staff get paid to do a job , if they just do that job then why should I be expected to top up their pay

I feel you are not fully reading the sentiment of the post, you are judging by UK culture. The point is, in America, that's how it is. If you don't like it, don't eat out. Forget whether you think it is right or wrong, that's the gig over there.

There are cultural differences all over the world that we should respect when we travel, this is another one of those. I say this as someone who really doesn't like a tipping culture but accept it is what it is in certain countries.

 

[PJ87]

Not tipping would make you a cretin,
which urban, coastal Americans, at least, disrespect more than criminals.

You understand cultural differences.
This is just another one of those.
We're expected to act like proper guests in one another's nations.

Do you disagree with that?

It's completely different

Not tipping is rude


Carrying a fire arm is an offence that would get you locked up

 

[IanM]

The whole thing is a joke

Nobody should feel obliged to tip

Not tipping is rude

You can reserve your right to be rude I suppose?

 

[PJ87]

You can reserve your right to be rude I suppose?

Exactly I can choose to be rude if the service is rubbish

However boomer can't choose to brand a weapon on a UK street

What a rubbish comparison

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Exactly I can choose to be rude if the service is rubbish

However boomer can't choose to brand a weapon on a UK street

What a rubbish comparison

To be fair, it's an over exaggerating of a clear cultural difference between the US and UK. It was to make a point, not to be serious.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

It's completely different

Not tipping is rude


Carrying a fire arm is an offence that would get you locked up

I obviously understand that.
The repercussion for not tipping in America is OBVIOUSLY
not comparable to carry guns in the UK.

But to an American, the act is almost just as offensive.....
if the gun carrier's only offense was actually having the weapon and not committing any malfeasance with it.

Britain pays its waiters a livable wage and I commend that, of course.
I don't know how our system evolved into being.

America trusts its citizens to bear arms
unless they forfeit that right with criminal behavior
in which case there are severe consequences.

I'm not saying that's the safest way to go about things.
I'm not.
That's just the way it is.
"Telling it like it is" is never rubbish.

 

[PJ87]

I obviously understand that.
The repercussion for not tipping in America is OBVIOUSLY
not comparable to carry guns in the UK.

But to an American, the act salmost just as offensive.....
if the gun carrier's only offense was actually having the weapon and not committing any malfeasance with it.

Britain pays its waiters a livable wage and I commend that, of course.
I don't know how our system evolved into being.

America trusts its citizens to bear arms
unless they forfeit that right with criminal behavior
in which case there are severe consequences.

I'm not saying that's the safest way to go about things.
I'm not.
That's just the way it is.

When you make a ridiculous point don't double down on it.

It's nothing like how the UK would react to guns because again one is a crime and one is just being rude

Trusts it citizens? That's why there are shootings on a monthly basis

Boomer your heads gone mate

Here's a tip for you

Quit whilst your behind.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

If someone doesn’t tip in the US what happens

Nothing at the end of the day

Yes it is all about culture and in my experience the service isn’t great because they know they don’t need to work for the tip

Where as in the UK they appear to go above in the service at times

 

[PJ87]

If someone doesn’t tip in the US what happens

Nothing at the end of the day

Yes it is all about culture and in my experience the service isn’t great because they know they don’t need to work for the tip

Where as in the UK they appear to go above in the service at times

Also UK severs don't expect it so they are much more thankful for getting one.

And if you don't tip they are polite and don't mention it

Do it in America they try and force you to tip

Now that is morally wrong

 

[IanM]

Exactly I can choose to be rude if the service is rubbish

However boomer can't choose to brand a weapon on a UK street

What a rubbish comparison

If the service is rubbish, that's different, and you didn't mention that in the post quoted. Mind you, in the US that's rare. And if the service isn't good, you're not being rude, you are giving feedback!

Cultural differences sometimes bump in to each other.

A few years back, I drove innocently past the valet parking at a US Golf Course and parked in a space barely 30 yards beyond! As we waked towards the clubhouse, the guy said, I bet you're British! "Ah, I said, valet parking? Sorry, not used to that, I can walk from the car park!"

We has a laugh about it. He got a tip when we left for sticking all our luggage in the car.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

When you make a ridiculous point don't double down on it.

It's nothing like how the UK would react to guns because again one is a crime and one is just being rude

Trusts it citizens? That's why there are shootings on a monthly basis

Boomer your heads gone mate

Here's a tip for you

I didn't bring my revolver into Heathrow.
I respected your culture.

If you don't plan to tip, please don't eat in an American restaurant.
That's all that I'm saying.

That said, it's obviously time to put you on ignore.
I respectfully suggest you do the same with me.

 

[PJ87]

Your refusal to accept the reality as is
instead of how you would like it to be
makes you seriously intellectually and morally inferior to me
by my more sane than yours standards. I'm quitting nothing.

I didn't bring my revolver into Heathrow.
I respected your culture.

If you don't plan to tip, please don't eat in an American restaurant.
That's all that I'm saying.

That said, it's obviously time to put you on ignore.

You didn't respect my culture , you stuck to the law. There is a massive difference

 

[Fade and Die]

I didn't bring my revolver into Heathrow.
I respected your culture.

If you don't plan to tip, please don't eat in an American restaurant.
That's all that I'm saying.

That said, it's obviously time to put you on ignore.
I respectfully suggest you do the same with me.

I think you are confusing Law with Culture, also I think your point is flawed as you can only “Open carry” in 36 states…btw, you can legally marry your 1st cousin in 18 states but don’t be trying that here either.

 

[PJ87]

I think you are confusing Law with Culture, also I think your point is flawed as you can only “Open carry” in 36 states…btw, you can legally marry your 1st cousin in 18 states but don’t be trying that here either.

If I don't tip in the US I'll get shouted out and people will be cross

If boomer brings in his firearm here he maybe get shouted at and people will be cross but also he will be arrested , charger and chucked inside.

Utter ridiculous comparison, I don't even know why he thinks it's even remotely connected

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Time to stop folks. Get back to the original point or don't post.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Two things you have to do, if you want to be a rational human being, with regards tipping and other things in different parts of the world.

Accept the status quo and deal with it.
Imagine something better and express a desire to talk about it rationally.

Unfortunately, there are some places where the second point can be very tricky.
UK and USA are not in that category - so let us all celebrate that.

 

[KenL]

I didn't bring my revolver into Heathrow.
I respected your culture.

If you don't plan to tip, please don't eat in an American restaurant.
That's all that I'm saying.

That said, it's obviously time to put you on ignore.
I respectfully suggest you do the same with me.

Do you tip 15% in McDonald's?