The Footie Thread

[PJ87]

We discussed this a few pages back, but I disagree with you on a number of points. Firstly, apparently Poch is open to discussions because he isn't overly happy with his PSG role. Secondly, I think if Levy appoint him it shows a bit of growth, a willingness to eat humble pie and actually admit that he perhaps didn't back Poch the way he should have done a few years ago. Also will get a few fans back on side after the Super League mess, plus a slim chance that Kane will stick around since he loves Poch (and I reckon that might be reason number 1 to reappoint him, deep down). I don't see a lot of downsides to be honest. West Ham and Moyes have proved that going back to old manager can be a success as long as you right the wrongs of the first spell. If we bring in Poch, plus at least two very good defenders, manage to keep Kane for one more year then I'd be quietly confident about our chances of having a decent season.

Quite a difference with Moyes and Poch tho

Moyes was on a 9 month contract .. to keep us up and then his contract wasn't renewed

Poch was sacked .. and after getting spurs to the champs league final

However I can see poch coming back, especially if say he has young kids who were settled In London, might just suit all parties

Plus the fans loved him

 

[Junior]

He is a CB ?



When you watch him for both France and Juve he is superb - he has the lot but it just doesn’t seem to come through in the Prem ?

I've watched him a lot for us and since November he's been one of our best players. I'd like Ole to set the team up better. I'd go 4-3-3 with De Gea, AWB, Maguire, Bailey, Shaw.....Pogba, McTominay, A.N. Other, Fernandes, Cavani, Greenwood.

Ive said it before, we're like Liverpool before VVD signed.

 

[Rlburnside]

Daniel Levy is an absolute joke and a laughing stock. Reports state that he has had contact with Pochettino about a return to replace HIS successor ????????
In his 20 years at Spurs he has gone through 10 managers !!!!!, to name a few Glenn Hoddle, Martin Joll, Harry Redknapp, Jacque Santini, Andros Villa Boas, Juande Ramos, Mourinho etc, etc ??. This clearly demonstrates NO long term planning, merely chopping and changing.
The 2 stand out obvious flops from day 1 we’re going to be Andros Villa Boas and Mourinho. The 2 best were Redknapp and Pochettino.
NO way will Pochettino return, and why should he.
The future looks bleak at Tottenham, we have a state of the art stadium that we may struggle to fill. Our best player looks like he’ll be away. Coupled with players who have no connection/bond to the club. What does Levy do - he embarrasses himself by approaching Pochettino ??
For the benefit of the club, it is YOU Mr Levy who must go.

I’d be delighted if Poch came back ?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Do we know he upsets the atmosphere?
The team has been trophyless because they aren’t good enough. He’s still a better player than the likes of Fred and Van De Beek. i wouldn’t want him out before improvements were brought in.

In simple turns, as an asset I think he’s financially viable which was the point I countered, you can’t pay the blame for their (Utds) lack of success and therefore access to greater financial reward simply at his feet imo.

He did when Mourinho was there, although so did Mourinho.

Yes, better than them, but I doubt anyone many could say that he has been worth the £100 mill paid for him.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Ive said it before, we're like Liverpool before VVD signed.

Virgil PLUS Allison.

Them goalscoring keepers are like gold dust.

 

[Orikoru]

However there is always the monkey on the back - it rarely works out when players/managers return for a second period

I don't really know if that's true. Aside from Moyes you had Zidane who returned to Real Madrid and won the league again. Mourinho returned to Chelsea and won the league again. I can't really think of any other examples where it did fail horribly.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If true, glad we have got someone in early for a change rather than leaving it until the last minute and ending up with a panic buy left back from Hull.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1398247616933249029

It’s all signed and sealed

 

[clubchamp98]

Virgil PLUS Allison.

Them goalscoring keepers are like gold dust.

I did say we needed a goalscorer Pete .
Didn’t think it would be the keeper, but we would have won a lot more games if he went up for more corners.

 

[clubchamp98]

I don't really know if that's true. Aside from Moyes you had Zidane who returned to Real Madrid and won the league again. Mourinho returned to Chelsea and won the league again. I can't really think of any other examples where it did fail horribly.

Think Pooch is a good fit and should never have got rid .
Putting Mourino in has taken you backwards.
Second time isn’t a prob

 

[fundy]

Virgil PLUS Allison.

Them goalscoring keepers are like gold dust.

ah the irony

 

[Billysboots]

I honestly hate Bruno, I've never seen anyone moan as much as him in football. Not just at the ref, but at his teammates when they haven't passed to him, at opponents who had the audacity to try and tackle him - literally everyone, and it's non-stop. It's like in his head he believes he's something between Cristiano Ronaldo and a god.

I don’t like the play acting and moaning at the ref. Hate it. He doesn’t need to do it.

I remember when Ronaldo first came to Old Trafford and broke into the first team, it was clear from his first game, which I was at, that he was going to be a massive talent. It also became clear that he had a tendency to hit the deck way too easily. And I’ll tell you honestly, he got more stick for it from the Stretford End than he did from the away fans in the South East Quadrant. United fans dislike their own players diving as much as the away fans do.

 

[Tashyboy]

I don’t like the play acting and moaning at the ref. Hate it. He doesn’t need to do it.

I remember when Ronaldo first came to Old Trafford and broke into the first team, it was clear from his first game, which I was at, that he was going to be a massive talent. It also became clear that he had a tendency to hit the deck way too easily. And I’ll tell you honestly, he got more stick for it from the Stretford End than he did from the away fans in the South East Quadrant. United fans dislike their own players diving as much as the away fans do.

Watched a bit of a podcast the other day where Micah Richards, Linekar and Shearer were discussing Ronaldo. First thing Richards said was “ Ronaldo was difficult to play against coz he was always diving” he added straight away that “he did not have to he was that good”.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Watched a bit of a podcast the other day where Micah Richards, Linekar and Shearer were discussing Ronaldo. First thing Richards said was “ Ronaldo was difficult to play against coz he was always diving” he added straight away that “he did not have to he was that good”.

I do believe the fans get more annoyed/frustrated with diving etc than the players (past and present) though.

2 main reasons being, they see it as part of the game, ie, “winning a foul” and they feel without diving the Referees won’t give some of the fouls.

Whatever the reason though, there’s no doubt it won’t stop until the players themselves accept it’s wrong.

 

[fundy]

Even money says Poch doesnt go back for me this morning lol, so much for never betting on these mkts again haha

5/1 again now, thats better

 

[Slime]

That's a lot of money for a right back, specially when you already have the best in the PL ??

2nd best!

 

[PJ87]

2nd best!

Very true.. coufal had 7 assists from open play this season and dominated most games he played in..

Only 5 mil aswell

 

[Deleted member 29109]

5/1 again now, thats better

Luke Ayling was indeed magnificent this season.

 

[4LEX]

Back to the Europa League Final and the subject of Man Utd generally.

Ole actually went against his negative roots and picked a loaded team to try and blow Villareal away. Unfortnately he had absolutely no game plan, none of the big players performed and Emery did a job on him. Throw in the bizarre lack of subs, Plan B and it just sums up everything bad about Ole. No clue unless he's setting up to stop a top side and counter. Anything else it's Stuart Pearce type of management about effort, passion and giving 100% whilst relying on individual quality.

Man Utd have a very good squad, it's just got a third rate manager and nothing coaches running it.

Bring in Poch if he's unsettled, get rid of De Gea, Pogba and Martial, invest in a CB, DM, RW and striker and that side will challenge for titles whilst playing brilliant football.

That won't happen. Instead Ole will stay, Pogba gets a crazy new deal to stop him going for free, Ole won't have the backbone to sell Martial, no one of note will come in bar Sancho and it'll be a huge battle for Top 4 at best. Utd got so lucky this season, the performances were horrendous bar a handful of second half turnarounds and a few early results in the CL. Theres no style, no attacking intent and the defence is horrific at set pieces.

I said it all along, they're a horrible football side that's full of arrogance. Wednesday highlighted that in a nutshell. Next season will get toxic very quickly, the fans are a powder keg ready to explode and the results will turn to reflect the performances.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

2nd best!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

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