The Footie Thread

[Junior]

During the final he needed to spend more time concentrating on his football and less time whining to the ref.

I agree. Reminds me of the story about Keane and Ronaldo. Ronaldo was doing as Bruno does until Keane got a grip of him.

Like I say, he’s a marked man and a fouled player. Players do it to stop momentum, especially with players like him, Grealish etc. I’m old school and would like him to just get on with it, sadly, it’s not the way these days.

 

[Papas1982]

Right at the start I mentioned that both went missing last night

It’s not the first time for Pogba and I would expect this is the summer they may sell him back to Juve and hope to get a good amount but for £100mil he must be close to be one of the biggest financial flops in the Prem

Fernandes - not for the first time was quiet in a big game , how much are his goals from penalties masking the lack of impact in some of the big games - 23 pens out of 36 goals, is he at that top table of attacking centre mids ?

I’m not sure I’d agree with that. i think he’s borderline a flop on performances, but there’s a reason they’ll offer him a new contract and I’m not sure it’s for resale value. He’s still a huge name marketing wise and I reckon he brings enough to the table that he makes financial sense to keep hold of.

 

[Beezerk]

Looks like we are sealing out first transfer

https://twitter.com/x/status/1398175832422617092

That's a lot of money for a right back, specially when you already have the best in the PL ??

 

[sunshine]

I honestly hate Bruno, I've never seen anyone moan as much as him in football. Not just at the ref, but at his teammates when they haven't passed to him, at opponents who had the audacity to try and tackle him - literally everyone, and it's non-stop. It's like in his head he believes he's something between Cristiano Ronaldo and a god.

That's a big statement. He has plenty of competition in that category!

I think Bruno has a long way to go if he aspires to top level moaning like Neymar, Busquets and Pepe.

 

[Orikoru]

That's a big statement. He has plenty of competition in that category!

I think Bruno has a long way to go if he aspires to top level moaning like Neymar, Busquets and Pepe.

Nah, you need to watch him, honestly it is constant from kick-off to the final whistle. Anything other than him being untouched for 90 minutes and passed the ball at every opportunity is a personal insult to him.

 

[Junior]

I’m not sure I’d agree with that. i think he’s borderline a flop on performances, but there’s a reason they’ll offer him a new contract and I’m not sure it’s for resale value. He’s still a huge name marketing wise and I reckon he brings enough to the table that he makes financial sense to keep hold of.

If you'd have asked me at the start of the season.....I didn't want him anywhere near the club. However, the minute Raiola started touting him around (November) it was like a switch that flicked and he became the rolls Royce of a player he can be. Its rare I'll ever say this but he has everything on his day. Vision, touch, tackle, in the air, box to box, shooting. He's a Scholes, Gerrard, Lampord type player. But again, hes inconsistent. I'd rather him at utd than City Chelsea, Liverpool though.

For me, this is where Ole needs to improve. He needs to be able to manage and motivate him better. Crazy (and sad) that footballers like him, on hundreds of thousands per week need motivating really.

 

[fundy]

That's a lot of money for a right back, specially when you already have the best in the PL ??

hes a centre half

 

[Deleted member 15344]

That's a lot of money for a right back, specially when you already have the best in the PL ??

He is a CB ?

If you'd have asked me at the start of the season.....I didn't want him anywhere near the club. However, the minute Raiola started touting him around (November) it was like a switch that flicked and he became the rolls Royce of a player he can be. Its rare I'll ever say this but he has everything on his day. Vision, touch, tackle, in the air, box to box, shooting. He's a Scholes, Gerrard, Lampord type player. But again, hes inconsistent. I'd rather him at utd than City Chelsea, Liverpool though.

For me, this is where Ole needs to improve. He needs to be able to manage and motivate him better. Crazy (and sad) that footballers like him, on hundreds of thousands per week need motivating really.

When you watch him for both France and Juve he is superb - he has the lot but it just doesn’t seem to come through in the Prem ?

 

[Liverbirdie]

I’m just looking at the last couple of games and he seemed to spend more time throwing himself to the floor looking for fouls and even more so constantly going to the referee every other minute . He is clearly a very talented player , seen him dominate other teams but if he is being squeezed out against the big teams he needs to find a way to get involved - the top players do that plus he prob also needs someone in the team to do the dirty work for him to let him free , going to be a big season for him next year

Looks like we are sealing out first transfer

https://twitter.com/x/status/1398175832422617092

If true, glad we have got someone in early for a change rather than leaving it until the last minute and ending up with a panic buy left back from Hull.

 

[Beezerk]

hes a centre half

Ha ha, I saw RB Leipzig and instantly thought he was a right back from Leipzig ??

 

[fundy]

If theres any truth whatsoever in the rumour that Mourinho wants Xhaka at Roma please please please dont anyone stand in his way

And if he wants to take half a dozen others with him..............

 

[fundy]

Ha ha, I saw RB Leipzig and instantly thought he was a right back from Leipzig ??

???????????

 

[Liverbirdie]

I’m not sure I’d agree with that. i think he’s borderline a flop on performances, but there’s a reason they’ll offer him a new contract and I’m not sure it’s for resale value. He’s still a huge name marketing wise and I reckon he brings enough to the table that he makes financial sense to keep hold of.

If it upsets the team formation, set-up and atmosphere around the club too much that you are shoe-horning a player into the team - is that making financial sense, especially if the team hs mainly been trophy-less for the few years he has been there?

 

[clubchamp98]

That’s a good signing for us.
We only need a goalscorer now!
Possibly one more CM

 

[Papas1982]

If it upsets the team formation, set-up and atmosphere around the club too much that you are shoe-horning a player into the team - is that making financial sense, especially if the team hs mainly been trophy-less for the few years he has been there?

Do we know he upsets the atmosphere?
The team has been trophyless because they aren’t good enough. He’s still a better player than the likes of Fred and Van De Beek. i wouldn’t want him out before improvements were brought in.

In simple turns, as an asset I think he’s financially viable which was the point I countered, you can’t pay the blame for their (Utds) lack of success and therefore access to greater financial reward simply at his feet imo.

 

[clubchamp98]

Do we know he upsets the atmosphere?
The team has been trophyless because they aren’t good enough. He’s still a better player than the likes of Fred and Van De Beek. i wouldn’t want him out before improvements were brought in.

In simple turns, as an asset I think he’s financially viable which was the point I countered, you can’t pay the blame for their (Utds) lack of success and therefore access to greater financial reward simply at his feet imo.

Every time I have watched Pogba ( not that often.)
He has impressed me ,he makes the game look easy.
Trophyless = the chances your strikers miss imo it’s very obvious.

 

[Jensen]

Daniel Levy is an absolute joke and a laughing stock. Reports state that he has had contact with Pochettino about a return to replace HIS successor ????????
In his 20 years at Spurs he has gone through 10 managers !!!!!, to name a few Glenn Hoddle, Martin Joll, Harry Redknapp, Jacque Santini, Andros Villa Boas, Juande Ramos, Mourinho etc, etc ??. This clearly demonstrates NO long term planning, merely chopping and changing.
The 2 stand out obvious flops from day 1 we’re going to be Andros Villa Boas and Mourinho. The 2 best were Redknapp and Pochettino.
NO way will Pochettino return, and why should he.
The future looks bleak at Tottenham, we have a state of the art stadium that we may struggle to fill. Our best player looks like he’ll be away. Coupled with players who have no connection/bond to the club. What does Levy do - he embarrasses himself by approaching Pochettino ??
For the benefit of the club, it is YOU Mr Levy who must go.

 

[nickjdavis]

Would you stick with Ole, if not of who is available, which manager ?

I think they need a real Man U hero.....

 

[Orikoru]

Daniel Levy is an absolute joke and a laughing stock. Reports state that he has had contact with Pochettino about a return to replace HIS successor ????????
In his 20 years at Spurs he has gone through 10 managers !!!!!, to name a few Glenn Hoddle, Martin Joll, Harry Redknapp, Jacque Santini, Andros Villa Boas, Juande Ramos, Mourinho etc, etc ??. This clearly demonstrates NO long term planning, merely chopping and changing.
The 2 stand out obvious flops from day 1 we’re going to be Andros Villa Boas and Mourinho. The 2 best were Redknapp and Pochettino.
NO way will Pochettino return, and why should he.
The future looks bleak at Tottenham, we have a state of the art stadium that we may struggle to fill. Our best player looks like he’ll be away. Coupled with players who have no connection/bond to the club. What does Levy do - he embarrasses himself by approaching Pochettino ??
For the benefit of the club, it is YOU Mr Levy who must go.

We discussed this a few pages back, but I disagree with you on a number of points. Firstly, apparently Poch is open to discussions because he isn't overly happy with his PSG role. Secondly, I think if Levy appoint him it shows a bit of growth, a willingness to eat humble pie and actually admit that he perhaps didn't back Poch the way he should have done a few years ago. Also will get a few fans back on side after the Super League mess, plus a slim chance that Kane will stick around since he loves Poch (and I reckon that might be reason number 1 to reappoint him, deep down). I don't see a lot of downsides to be honest. West Ham and Moyes have proved that going back to old manager can be a success as long as you right the wrongs of the first spell. If we bring in Poch, plus at least two very good defenders, manage to keep Kane for one more year then I'd be quietly confident about our chances of having a decent season.

 

[Jensen]

We discussed this a few pages back, but I disagree with you on a number of points. Firstly, apparently Poch is open to discussions because he isn't overly happy with his PSG role. Secondly, I think if Levy appoint him it shows a bit of growth, a willingness to eat humble pie and actually admit that he perhaps didn't back Poch the way he should have done a few years ago. Also will get a few fans back on side after the Super League mess, plus a slim chance that Kane will stick around since he loves Poch (and I reckon that might be reason number 1 to reappoint him, deep down). I don't see a lot of downsides to be honest. West Ham and Moyes have proved that going back to old manager can be a success as long as you right the wrongs of the first spell. If we bring in Poch, plus at least two very good defenders, manage to keep Kane for one more year then I'd be quietly confident about our chances of having a decent season.

However there is always the monkey on the back - it rarely works out when players/managers return for a second period