The Footie Thread

[Billysboots]

Again I say, the second touch came when Alvarez struck the penalty and the ball hit his standing foot.

You’re all looking for impact before he struck the penalty when that, apparently, is not what happened.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I think the fact that half a dozen forum “experts” can’t decide surely means it’s not clear and obvious

That’s the key thing tbh

VAR shouldn’t get involved if it’s not clear and obvious

 

[Beezerk]

Again I say, the second touch came when Alvarez struck the penalty and the ball hit his standing foot.

You’re all looking for impact before he struck the penalty when that, apparently, is not what happened.

I don’t see that, I see the ball move a fraction just before he strikes it with his right foot. Is there footage that shows the ball deflecting after he hits it?

 

[Billysboots]

I don’t see that, I see the ball move a fraction just before he strikes it with his right foot. Is there footage that shows the ball deflecting after he hits it?

It was discussed in the BBC highlights package last night. The footage might still be available on the BBC Sport app or website.

 

[Billysboots]

Julian Alvarez: The double-kick penalty controversy in shootout between Atletico Madrid & Real

Julian Alvarez's penalty in the shootout between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid is ruled out after he slips and is deemed to have hit the ball twice in one movement.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Beezerk]

Julian Alvarez: The double-kick penalty controversy in shootout between Atletico Madrid & Real

Julian Alvarez's penalty in the shootout between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid is ruled out after he slips and is deemed to have hit the ball twice in one movement.

www.bbc.co.uk

I can’t hear the sound due to work but I’m still only seeing the ball move before he hits it with his right foot. I struggling to see in the article where it says it deflects after he strikes it only that he hits it twice in the same movement.

 

[Orikoru]

I don’t see that, I see the ball move a fraction just before he strikes it with his right foot. Is there footage that shows the ball deflecting after he hits it?

This is what it looks like to me on the super slow motion replays I saw. One frame before he kicks it with his right foot, the ball jumps up half a centimetre - caused by his standing foot. Impossible to see whether he's crumpled the turf and that pushes the ball up though (as you said earlier). As I said, I think it should be a case where you repair the pitch and retake it.

 

[Billysboots]

I can’t hear the sound due to work but I’m still only seeing the ball move before he hits it with his right foot. I struggling to see in the article where it says it deflects after he strikes it only that he hits it twice in the same movement.

It’s discussed during the analysis by Stephen Warnock, I believe.

 

[Beezerk]

It’s discussed during the analysis by Stephen Warnock, I believe.

Oh must be correct if he said it then

 

[Pin-seeker]

This is what it looks like to me on the super slow motion replays I saw. One frame before he kicks it with his right foot, the ball jumps up half a centimetre - caused by his standing foot. Impossible to see whether he's crumpled the turf and that pushes the ball up though (as you said earlier). As I said, I think it should be a case where you repair the pitch and retake it.

Agreed

 

[Billysboots]

Oh must be correct if he said it then

I’m not saying it’s correct, but it makes more sense than what I’ve seen here!

 

[Pin-seeker]

I’m not saying it’s correct, but it makes more sense than what I’ve seen here!

 

[Bazz]

Doesn't move for me...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1900072339041096073

 

[Beezerk]

I wonder if Athletico will appeal somehow

 

[Don Barzini]

I wonder if Athletico will appeal somehow

Think it would be a completely futile exercise if they did.

Maybe they could ask for some official clarification though? And/or to listen to the VAR. (If that hasn't already been provided)

 

[Arthur Wedge]

It’s discussed during the analysis by Stephen Warnock, I believe.

God help us all if he is analysing

 

[Don Barzini]

So it has happened before.

Much more obvious on this one though!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1900159657949422052

 

[Billysboots]

God help us all if he is analysing

Not really an analysis, Phil. He’s saying what he can see. Much like on Catchphrase, only easier.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I wonder if Athletico will appeal somehow

It’s certainly a “Madrid” thing to do

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Not really an analysis, Phil. He’s saying what he can see. Much like on Catchphrase, only easier.

I’m amazed he can even do that