The Footie Thread

[Lord Tyrion]

Did you not see the foul on the keeper by Bernado Silva seconds before the john stones header?

We were talking about a completely different incident. Wolves attack, City player takes the ball from the attacker, from behind.

No, I did not see that as a foul, the Silva incident. There is all sorts of minor pushing and shoving at a corner. As long as it stays minor, it's fine. The keeper pushes enough people, should penalties be given each time? General incident, carry on.

 

[Morfeen75]

VAR did show the interaction between the two it was part of review that the ref watched at the screen

Well if they did, thats another poor decsion by VAR/onfield ref. It is a clear foul on the Wolves GK.

 

[Morfeen75]

We were talking about a completely different incident. Wolves attack, City player takes the ball from the attacker, from behind.

No, I did not see that as a foul, the Silva incident.

I never joined your discussion, i quoted Bazzatron.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

We were talking about a completely different incident. Wolves attack, City player takes the ball from the attacker, from behind.

No, I did not see that as a foul, the Silva incident. There is all sorts of minor pushing and shoving at a corner. As long as it stays minor, it's fine. The keeper pushes enough people, should penalties be given each time? General incident, carry on.

Otherwise every set piece would be halted. Keepers are over protected anyway (and I say that as an ex-keeper) and the game would be even more stop start at set pieces than it is now

 

[Swango1980]

Well if they did, thats another poor decsion by VAR/onfield ref. It is a clear foul on the Wolves GK.

Why is it a foul? Silva just stood in front of keeper, and stood his ground as the keeper thought about coming out for cross? If there was a foul, some might say the keeper fouled Silva, as he tried to shove him out of the way with both arms (I don't think the keeper made a foul either btw)

I think most teams use this tactic at corners, get someone in front of the keeper to restrict their movement. It is something that is obviously allowed, otherwise free kicks would be given at most corners for a foul on the keeper.

 

[Morfeen75]

Otherwise every set piece would be halted. Keepers are over protected anyway (and I say that as an ex-keeper) and the game would be even more stop start at set pieces than it is now

It's a misconception goalkeepers are over protected.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I never joined your discussion, i quoted Bazzatron.

@Bazzatron was talking about the tackle in the lead up to goal, not the Silva incident. Anyway, it's an open forum. Anyone can dip in and out of discussions.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Well if they did, thats another poor decsion by VAR/onfield ref. It is a clear foul on the Wolves GK.

What foul ? Gk is trying to push him away from being somewhere he is entitled to be

The only issue with Silva was to ensure he wasn’t interfering when Stones had the header and he moved out of the way

If two players giving each other a nudge is foul then penalties every time there is a corner

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848301784193806746

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I never joined your discussion, i quoted Bazzatron.

Was Bazzatron not talking about the Nunes tackle which is what their manager was complaining about

 

[Morfeen75]

Why is it a foul? Silva just stood in front of keeper, and stood his ground as the keeper thought about coming out for cross? If there was a foul, some might say the keeper fouled Silva, as he tried to shove him out of the way with both arms (I don't think the keeper made a foul either btw)

I think most teams use this tactic at corners, get someone in front of the keeper to restrict their movement. It is something that is obviously allowed, otherwise free kicks would be given at most corners for a foul on the keeper.

No he never. He clearly bumped into Sa to unsettle him. It is a foul. Sa shoved him back after he was fouled.

I never knew teams used it as a tactic to restrict the keepers.

 

[Bazz]

Was Bazzatron not talking about the Nunes tackle which is what their manager was complaining about

I was.

I really need to change that name, bloody hell.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I was.

I really need to change that name, bloody hell.

Sorted

 

[Morfeen75]

@Bazzatron was talking about the tackle in the lead up to goal, not the Silva incident. Anyway, it's an open forum. Anyone can dip in and out of discussions.

The goal actually came from a corner. i know that VAR cannot go that far back because the ball had gone out of play and then restarted with a corner so VAR can only check from the corner onwards.

 

[Bazz]

Sorted

Ta.

One Z Baz needs to do one.

 

[Don Barzini]

£750k fine coming Gary O'Neil's way.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848247904546218095

 

[Arthur Wedge]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848324919156785190

Always a good read after a weekend of VAR decisions

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Rather than all this moaning about VAR - some teams have much bigger issues https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c869eely4j2o

 

[Bdill93]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848324919156785190

Always a good read after a weekend of VAR decisions

I thought the Cash one was pretty harsh to be fair, in real time its nothing - in slow motion it looks like something more.

Overall - Peno saved anyway so no big deal in the end - but I think the handball rule is a bit rubbish at present. Bring back intent.

 

[Swango1980]

No he never. He clearly bumped into Sa to unsettle him. It is a foul. Sa shoved him back after he was fouled.

I never knew teams used it as a tactic to restrict the keepers.

Never a foul. And, if it was, fouls would be given at every single corner, as opponents are all over each other, competing for space.

If it was a foul, such as if Silva grabbed the keeper and tried to drag him away, then I'd expect VAR to ask the referee to review it.

But, he basically just stood in a position, back to the keeper. He's entitled to be there, no rule saying you need to give the keeper space.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Never a foul. And, if it was, fouls would be given at every single corner, as opponents are all over each other, competing for space.

If it was a foul, such as if Silva grabbed the keeper and tried to drag him away, then I'd expect VAR to ask the referee to review it.

But, he basically just stood in a position, back to the keeper. He's entitled to be there, no rule saying you need to give the keeper space.

Indeed. As long as there is no deliberate obstruction he can stand where he wants. Were he to then back into the keeper then of course it would be a foul but otherwise it is up to the keeper to decide how/if he can get to the ball. I do concede they get the slightest bump these days and get a foul