Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
I think Ben Stokes needs to have a quiet word with him...
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Blue in Munich
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How is that Not Out
Are they squaring up some of the previous errors?
Mudball
Assistant Pro
While i will take it... Root not given out was a proper howler which beats the previous 'not offering a shot' decision.. BTW how is an umpires call when you are castled on your backfoot and plumb.. i can understand if have put a big stride forward and the ball is turning.
i guess you need a bit of luck for both sides.. The good thing is that the umps have been consistent - ie. consistently bad for both sides
i guess you need a bit of luck for both sides.. The good thing is that the umps have been consistent - ie. consistently bad for both sides
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
The BCCI has not traditionally been a fan of the DRS. I am sure that they were the last major test natio to take it on. They wanted to keep the umpires in charge of the game with the vagaries that that brought.
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Paperboy
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Still remember when they toured England, can't remember who it was but a top order batsmen. Smashed it onto his pad and given out LBW, he tried to refer it but they weren't using ultra edge. Swann was very amused and told him he couldn't review that in the series.
sunshine
Well-known member
Yes. It was odd, because I think spinners have benefitted most from DRS. I would have expected India to be all for it.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
Who makes the DRS software? I am assuming it is made by a Indian software company... can they tweak it .... (just asking)
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Hello, my name is Kevin. I am calling about a bug on your DRS software. Can you please click the link I have send you and we can fix this issue..............
sunshine
Well-known member
I we are going to discuss DRS software, but I have my suspicions on how ultra edge is being used in the current test.
- Usually, the "flat line" before the ball hits the bat or pad isn't completely flat, there's always a bit of background noise picked up, then we see the spike of contact.
- In this series, when India is batting, the ultra edge flat line is completely flat, like it's not switched on, and then comes to life when the ball hits the pad. It feels like ultra edge is being switched off until the ball has passed the bat.
- When England is batting, you can see a bit of distortion in the flat line before impact, as I'm used to seeing.
This is a massively cynical post, probably completely unfounded, but it was something I noticed before the third umpire started making dodgy decisions over the weekend.
- Usually, the "flat line" before the ball hits the bat or pad isn't completely flat, there's always a bit of background noise picked up, then we see the spike of contact.
- In this series, when India is batting, the ultra edge flat line is completely flat, like it's not switched on, and then comes to life when the ball hits the pad. It feels like ultra edge is being switched off until the ball has passed the bat.
- When England is batting, you can see a bit of distortion in the flat line before impact, as I'm used to seeing.
This is a massively cynical post, probably completely unfounded, but it was something I noticed before the third umpire started making dodgy decisions over the weekend.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
Not sure about the ultra edge but I did think during the first test that ball tracking was taking a long time to be shown on the screen when it was an LBW appeal against an Indian batsman but was much quicker when it was against an English batsman. Someone more cynical than myself might suggest that it was being manipulated to show what the Indians wanted it to show, but obviously I'd never suggest that.
Mudball
Assistant Pro
From the above post, looks like the new name for DRS is Doctored Review System..
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
Enjoying this little cameo by Moeen.
The pitch is a disgrace for a 4th day though.
The pitch is a disgrace for a 4th day though.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
So what the hell am I going to do tomorrow morning now....
No golf and now no cricket....
India could have enforced the follow on after all....we were poor..all round
No golf and now no cricket....
India could have enforced the follow on after all....we were poor..all round
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Yep. An entertaining 10 minutes but the pitch was a disgrace. But then, so was our batting.
Roll on Ahmedabad.
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Can't remember if I've already posted this here or somewhere else .... you'd get fined for pitches like these in the Hampshire League.
Bringing the game into disrepute.
Bringing the game into disrepute.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
Sounds like a lot of sour grapes above. India scored over 600 runs so the wicket couldn't have been that bad. And it's not as if England don't prepare wickets to suit them in home tests.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
India batted well and 2 standout performances and some great support earned them the victory.
What I am saying is that the toss is too important on decks like that. Winning the toss will give you a huge advantage and is probably equivalent to 120 - 150 runs in the first dig and 50 - 75 in the second dig if you bat on day 3. That's huge. Of course the team has to play well to achieve/earn those numbers but it certainly is easier for them. The result might have been different if the toss had gone the other way.
rudebhoy
Q-School Graduate
Did the toss really really give them such a huge advantage? The fact that India only scored 40 runs less in their 2nd innings than in the first suggests the wicket didn't deteriorate as massively as some have said. (I could also point to the fact that England scored more in their 2nd innings that in their 1st, but they batted so badly in both that it's not worth comparing.)
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
England were outplayed in all 3 facets in this game and would probably have lost on a road.
funkycoldmedina
Newbie
Both of these statements can be correct. England were poor and the wicket was a disgrace. I hate seeing home nations prepare tracks to suit themselves but this one was one of the worst examples of it. I'd like the ICC to step in with wicket prep because it's good to see the away team win on fair tracks.
