bobmac
Major Champion
Does it have an exhaust pipe?
The all things EV chat thread
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C7usk
Well-known member
Lol... I presume it does.. It has emmisions
I Wish it was an EV but it really isn't....certainly not in the tax mans eyes..
Had a look at company car tax as thought it could be an option.
Think I'll stick with the plan to get an Enyaq... And probably the coupe..
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
bobmac
Major Champion
My Nissan Leaf doesn't have an exhaust pipe, or a 12 gallon petrol tank. It does however a have charging port that I use at home
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
Have you ever wondered where the power that comes out of that port comes from?
Here is a spoiler…
National Grid: Live
Shows the live status of Great Britain’s electric power transmission network
grid.iamkate.com
Right now at 13.58pm the vast majority is burning stuff.
bobmac
Major Champion
I am well aware of where my electricity comes from....Octopus which is 100% renewable. And I don't charge my car on a Sunday afternoon, I charge overnight at 7p kwh, 2-3p per mile.
And if you want to look at the grid, try viewing a year, not just today.
And if you want to look at the grid, try viewing a year, not just today.
In reality, the energy from Octopus isn't 100% renewable, we are with them as well. The electricity comes through the grid and so is a mixture of sources. They make the claim by sleight of hand but in reality, it isn't.
To do that, they'd have to have their own, dedicated, cables and they don't.
No localised tail pipe fumes is a good thing though.
bobmac
Major Champion
So where do Octopus buy their electricity from when I'm charging my car overnight?
They might buy it from a renewable source but that doesn't mean you are receiving renewable power. You receive whatever is in the system from whatever source is producing at that time.
bobmac
Major Champion
And at midnight, the grid gets its electricity from the cheapest source...renewables.
It's a moot point anyway as in the new year, I'll be getting solar and batteries so even cheaper and greener
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
Please don’t spoil the illusion (delusion
)cliveb
Head Pro
I can't quite fathom how this is supposed to work in practice. They only buy renewable, but what they sell to their customers is a mix of renewable and that horrid fossil-derived stuff.
It does beg the question: what if everyone switched to Octopus? How are they going to buy enough renewable electricity for everyone? Would they have to ditch that aspect of their sales pitch?
I guess in reality they will never have 100% of the market so they can hold the illusion. It's a clever marketing pitch, I'm just slightly surprised that they are allowed to get away with it. I would expect someone from the advertising standards body, or similar, to wag their finger at them and tell them to be a little more honest with their claims
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Renewable doesn’t always mean clean
How do they mine for the lithium in your batteries
What about all the materials used for making those solar panels
It’s all a white elephant
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Check out carbon credits and how firms buy and sell them to claim they are greener than they actually are.
I remember TaTa steel clawing £660 million in carbon reduction from the EU when they closed the steel works up on Teesside. They then got a grant from the EU for €xxx million for opening a steel plant in the Netherlands.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
After 3.5yrs of (relatively) trouble free motoring I woke up on Thursday to the Ioniq 5 having not charged. Thought it was the charger as the RCD switch was tripped but plugged in the wife’s car and it charged first go. Took the car down to the local charging spot and blew up a charger which confirmed that my car was the culprit. ICCU is knackered so the car is off the road for 4+ weeks unless I’m lucky with parts. Just waiting for Hyundai to sort me out a loaner. Amazing that a manufacturer (and I don’t just tar Hyundai with this brush) can ‘fix’ a well known issue with their cars and yet the issue still remains.
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
I’m back on the phone tomorrow to Nissan U.K. to try to get a loaner, my cars been off the road for a week now and the local main dealer and Nissan are both telling me that the other one should be providing me with a courtesy car. Cars not getting looked at for another 6 weeks and looking online at peoples experiences it could be off the road for 4 months!
Once this lease is over in two years time I will be about a year/18 months from retirement, I’ll be looking at buying a decent petrol engine car, absolutely lost faith in electric.
bobmac
Major Champion
You've had one bad experience with an EV that have been around for about 15 years and you want to go back to a petrol engine that are still having problems after 100 years of manufacturing.
Fade and Die
Medal Winner
That’s fair comment, although any problems they have now are due to the added tech rather that the fundamental internal combustion engine… I was massively frustrated by the inability to even tow the bloody thing home. Also it seems the lack of technicians that can work on EVs is a real problem in the industry. Give me a 2.0L diesel that I can tow, bump start and will be good for 250,000 miles.
