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Heat pumps great in winter for efficiency, all your test drives are in prime conditions rather than degraded ones

Their not the be all and end all but I do like mine , depends how much it is

I'd lean towards the Skoda tbh as BMW just trying to make pretty cars rather than efficient
Which ones? Most BMW models I am seeing at the moment are goppingly awful.
 

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I hate that. You basically carry something that weights a little bit you can’t use. And no BMW customer has ever paid for the subscription model on the indicator ;-)

Cuts down manufacturing costs tho

I mean Tesla you can pay for the self driving or whatever £4k upgrade

My mate sent a screen shot 1k to upgrade 0-60 by 1 second

Silly software tweaks but available to anyone who wants to part with their cash
 

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I'm with you about frivolous extra, but do you genuinely consider a heated steering wheel and seats to be more important than good brakes? 😲
I expect them per se, legal requirements are stopping at a deceleration of 11m/s ish.
The problem from my experience is the braking attribute teams tune to the tyre and then the customer puts on a cheaper tyre and the braking distance is adversely affected.
My view is the brake distance or deceleration should be done on a low quality tyre.
 

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Just drive the iX3, very comfortable and really smooth with good sound insulation. Steady through changes of direction and nicely weighted steering. I think better than my F Pace was and that was a lovely car. The power delivery was more than enough and smooth.
The car comes with a shed load of stuff, metallic paint is no extra cost wheels no choice.. I don’t care unless the car is lazy or bangy.
I will pursue a deal on a 2nd hand low mileage car. I don’t think a new deal works out as well given the market behaviour. So using the market conditions to my advantage could save me more money.
 

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I expect them per se, legal requirements are stopping at a deceleration of 11m/s ish.
The problem from my experience is the braking attribute teams tune to the tyre and then the customer puts on a cheaper tyre and the braking distance is adversely affected.
My view is the brake distance or deceleration should be done on a low quality tyre.
Ah right, I misunderstood your post.
What you actually mean is that stuff like ABS and disc brakes shouldn't be extra options - they should be standard, right? If so, I agree.
(Mind you, do any cars these days come without discs and ABS?)
 

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Ah right, I misunderstood your post.
What you actually mean is that stuff like ABS and disc brakes shouldn't be extra options - they should be standard, right? If so, I agree.
(Mind you, do any cars these days come without discs and ABS?)

That's his point to be fair. They shouldn't be listed as features as they are standard

It's like boasting the car has seatbelts
 

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That's his point to be fair. They shouldn't be listed as features as they are standard

It's like boasting the car has seatbelts
It's not boasting, but just informing the percentage of buyers who do not know ABS is standard now, just as laminate windscreens, and even intermittent wipers are.
 

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Move over all you yogurt knitters and fence sitters… finally a proper use of an EV .. all the way from OoyeessAhh… long live America.. (and he got a thumbs up from Elon on Twitter)

 

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Move over all you yogurt knitters and fence sitters… finally a proper use of an EV .. all the way from OoyeessAhh… long live America.. (and he got a thumbs up from Elon on Twitter)

Typical hillbilly rubbish. Should use the weapon on that hideous pile of rubbish that go kart is.
 

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I find the packs really annoying and working at JLR it was evident that the marketing teams were not very good at it. The point is they need to simplify the line work but the packs came with 70-80% of stuff you didn’t want.
Give me a heated steering wheel and seats plus heated screen and I am happy.
What I don’t like is lists of stuff that I feel are just bog std market requirements.. like ABS , ADAS functions , disc brakes …..
One of my annoyances on mine is the position of the switch for heated seats (not something I am bothered about having) and the number of times I suddenly realise I have a burning bottom.
 

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One of my annoyances on mine is the position of the switch for heated seats (not something I am bothered about having) and the number of times I suddenly realise I have a burning bottom.
Back when the heated seat was novel we used turn them up to max on our unsuspecting passenger. You could see them fidgeting about .. it’s a sensation of perhaps needing a number 2 but them being surprised as they had not expected it 🤭🤭
 

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I joined here a while after this thread started and only got an EV earlier this year, I’d be interested to know if anyone’s view has changed much and either gone back to an ICE from EV. Scanning back through the thread it seems there is a lot of comment about range and charging speed vs filling up at a station and cost to buy.

It seems most take the most extreme cases of range and quote the 5 mins to fill and ICE as the baseline for owning an EV, but in reality it very straight forward and less hassle than an ICE car tbh. I can’t ever imagine owning an ICE car ever again.

So many amazing deals for EVs out there now, if you’re on the fence then just go for it.
 

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That's his point to be fair. They shouldn't be listed as features as they are standard

It's like boasting the car has seatbelts
Not sure if it was an old video, but I saw one of Elon saying that with modern technology in airbags seatbelts could be a ‘whatever’
 

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I joined here a while after this thread started and only got an EV earlier this year, I’d be interested to know if anyone’s view has changed much and either gone back to an ICE from EV. Scanning back through the thread it seems there is a lot of comment about range and charging speed vs filling up at a station and cost to buy.

It seems most take the most extreme cases of range and quote the 5 mins to fill and ICE as the baseline for owning an EV, but in reality it very straight forward and less hassle than an ICE car tbh. I can’t ever imagine owning an ICE car ever again.

So many amazing deals for EVs out there now, if you’re on the fence then just go for it.
I've only met one person who wants to switch back from EV to ICE because he can't charge at home or at work. A bit more research required
 

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Deposit laid out on BMW iX3 with 4300miles on 73plate in the colour combo my wife wanted.
I am now sorting out a home charger, and getting my electric tariff sorted. Then I will do the car insurance which will be higher, but that’s life.
I have identified a few chargers locally that have lowish tariffs and high speeds.

So next job is to think about solar panels and direct to car options or battery. I think the home battery doesn’t have to be as big as I was thinking initially, which will be a cost save. I will ask about the ability to add to them in series if I upgrade later.
 

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Deposit laid out on BMW iX3 with 4300miles on 73plate in the colour combo my wife wanted.
I am now sorting out a home charger, and getting my electric tariff sorted. Then I will do the car insurance which will be higher, but that’s life.
I have identified a few chargers locally that have lowish tariffs and high speeds.

So next job is to think about solar panels and direct to car options or battery. I think the home battery doesn’t have to be as big as I was thinking initially, which will be a cost save. I will ask about the ability to add to them in series if I upgrade later.

If you are going from scratch solar aswell then get a zappi. they are the best around and work with octopus intelligent , ohme are also very good but zappi imo is a better charger (I have an ohme, if i was starting again id go zappi but I had a podpoint and upgraded to an ohme)

there is a debate if home batteries are worth it but thats personal choice. I like mine.

with regards of charging solar to the car dont bother. I buy my electric from octopus at night for 7p a kwh, any excess solar is sold back to them for 15p a kwh .. yes these figures could and will change but its likely to remain higher for export with them (only with intelligent, with go you get 9p in and 8p out)

octopus is one option to go for.

personally if you have solar and battery go for them or eon drive. OVO offer charge anytime but its JUST what you use to charge, not your house. where as in the winter I fill up at 7p a kwh and the home battery and solar see me through the day

the way intelligent octopus works is you get 6 hours cheap a night. 23:30-05:30 hrs, however if you say I want 100% battery for example by 7am it will offer extra slots .. or slots outside the cheap hours when they have excess to use (as they get paid to manage the grid flow) and that applies to the whole house aswell. useful in the winter if you want to ask for the car to be ready for 10pm for example....

eon drive is simple , 7 hours at 7p a unit and 16p out believe it was.. but its only 7 set hours doesnt move.. so thats up to you. personally i stuck with octopus for their customer service.

all require a smart meter I believe so make sure you request one

octopus can install home chargers and do them pretty quickly, they offer zappi for just over £1000 tethered is my personal preference for ease of use but others prefer not to.

just an example of octopus , saturday I think it was got an email saying they will offer half price charging (so 3.5p a kwh) for the bank holiday, so if you plug in monday night and leave unplugged tuesday you will be credited (in couple of weeks) the difference. we had just got home sunday from a road trip so held the charge until monday. octopus are a very progressive energy company looking to change the energy market and this was just a test of what they can offer the grid with their smart charging (they have a system called kraken https://octopusenergy.group/kraken-technologies)

so for the monday evening part here is my energy usage



as you can see they adjust the cheap hours around when they want to charge your car and with my charger (and zappi I believe) they can ramp the power up and down depending



so this picture above shows how one 15 min section they were charging at 16amp and the next section 32amp .. allowing them to tailor supply to demand but you still get your car ready by when you asked for it

for example I wanted 30% added to my car overnight ready for 05:50 when I was departing (with a 30 min pre condition aswell so it would take off the house not the car) and sure enough it started at 23:30 for a bit, did all its smart stuff and when I unplugged it at 05:50 it was ready to go fully warmed up

this is all very simple aswell its really not complex as it sounds..

however if you do want even more simple the eon drive is simple... 7 hours set cheap rate. I just like the options for charging after nights for example

going back to the panels ive had my charger wired up outside my home battery set up. so the charger will never drain from the battery as thats using one battery to charge another which isnt efficient

(Another quick add, octopus are trailing free electric on hours with massive excess to save the grid money, anyone's one coming up at 13:00-1400, my battery is only 85% full ATM. If it's not full at 13:00 I'll charge it up for free)

any questions my PMs always open
 
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