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And 100 more to come within 5 years, plus smaller ''stations''
350 kw chargers full of green renewable energy (y):):):)

All it needs is a driving range

If they put in a driving range just yes lol

Would be great if they installed them not far away lol
 

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Don’t live near it but at 24p a kWh I doubt I would bother unless desperate. Would “zap map” to one at 16p a kWh or ensure I’ve charged up at work for free or at home for 4.5p a kWh/10.4p kWh at night.

It's a fantastic price for on the road.. one near work is 39p a kw

If these took off and had them at service stations . Would be key
 

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That was indeed quite interesting and very impressive.

Certainly one idea we need going forward to get the concept to take off.

Like he said mainly just get companies putting 2 charges in the car parks etc ...that is annoying with more and more people using them 2 is never going to be enough


Well unless you employ 2 people
 

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Over the past few weeks, we have had three major diversions which would have been extremely concerning if I had an electric car. One was an 85 mile diversion through the Highlands, last week a 40 mile diversion and this morning, the new Queensferry Crossing between Edinburgh and Fife (Which they claimed would never close) is closed again resulting in a 40 mile diversion and over one hour delays!
 

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Over the past few weeks, we have had three major diversions which would have been extremely concerning if I had an electric car. One was an 85 mile diversion through the Highlands, last week a 40 mile diversion and this morning, the new Queensferry Crossing between Edinburgh and Fife (Which they claimed would never close) is closed again resulting in a 40 mile diversion and over one hour delays!

Not ideal at all

But if the range of the cars became a minimum of 300 miles would that take away some of the worry?
 

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I was reading an interesting article about future automotive tech a few days ago. Apparently the consensus is that battery cars are great for up to 150 mile range. The concept is that although battery drive train efficiency is really high, it ignores the overall vehicle efficiency which is reduced by carrying round heavy batteries, whereas a less efficient engine in a vehicle of lower weight is more efficient as a whole vehicle. You then get into the rocket scientists problem of adding more fuel to be able to propel a payload, but then needing to add more fuel to be able to propel the weight of the fuel you added, therefore needing to add more fuel...
This is further compounded by the fact that energy density of batteries is already near theoretical limit, not just the practical limit. Unless of course we discover new elements to add to the periodic table.

The other interesting point I took from the article, is that although it is true that approximately 80% of journeys are under 20 miles, it is also true that approximately 80% of the total miles driven in a car are in the 20% of journeys over 20 miles, so it's not as clear cut as to whether electric would suit.

The conclusion was that electric vehicles are likely to be a compliment to other types of propulsion, in the guise of city cars, but are not going to be a full scale solution of themselves.
 

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There aren't many petrol stations, let alone electric charging points in the Highlands!

300 mile range, home charger network is a start

Things will change in future. There will be car with 500 mile range I'm sure and filling up at home what's not to love.
 

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It's a fantastic price for on the road.. one near work is 39p a kw

If these took off and had them at service stations . Would be key

Thinking about it your right, fantastic price considering they had to build that, the solar farm and the land not to mention future proofing and plenty of fast charging options which I assume are also for 24ppkw.

I just struggle to think when I’d need to use a service station unless I was planning a long journey or holiday and even then I have 10m granny cable.

Had a tethered Pod-Point fitted yesterday at home.

Still no car though:ROFLMAO:
 

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Thinking about it your right, fantastic price considering they had to build that, the solar farm and the land not to mention future proofing and plenty of fast charging options which I assume are also for 24ppkw.

I just struggle to think when I’d need to use a service station unless I was planning a long journey or holiday and even then I have 10m granny cable.

Had a tethered Pod-Point fitted yesterday at home.

Still no car though:ROFLMAO:

My podpoint will be here the 21st December

Car is due 18th December

Like you I don't think I'll use these stations, I'll use home charging and manage my journeys but If these became the norm for service stations I'd use them on long trips
 

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I was reading an interesting article about future automotive tech a few days ago. Apparently the consensus is that battery cars are great for up to 150 mile range. The concept is that although battery drive train efficiency is really high, it ignores the overall vehicle efficiency which is reduced by carrying round heavy batteries, whereas a less efficient engine in a vehicle of lower weight is more efficient as a whole vehicle. You then get into the rocket scientists problem of adding more fuel to be able to propel a payload, but then needing to add more fuel to be able to propel the weight of the fuel you added, therefore needing to add more fuel...
This is further compounded by the fact that energy density of batteries is already near theoretical limit, not just the practical limit. Unless of course we discover new elements to add to the periodic table.

The other interesting point I took from the article, is that although it is true that approximately 80% of journeys are under 20 miles, it is also true that approximately 80% of the total miles driven in a car are in the 20% of journeys over 20 miles, so it's not as clear cut as to whether electric would suit.

The conclusion was that electric vehicles are likely to be a compliment to other types of propulsion, in the guise of city cars, but are not going to be a full scale solution of themselves.
This is interesting .
Am interested in an EV but every test drive I see only has the driver in it.
I would like to see a real world test with four adults and four sets of clubs in the boot.
What would the weight of this do to the range.
It would not be 300mls any more.
 

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This is interesting .
Am interested in an EV but every test drive I see only has the driver in it.
I would like to see a real world test with four adults and four sets of clubs in the boot.
What would the weight of this do to the range.
It would not be 300mls any more.

Sorry but what real world would get 4 sets of clubs in the boot? Most cars can't fit one with the driver left in the bag.
 
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