clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
It should meet H&S first not after install.
I can see someone tripping and the owner in court.
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I can see someone tripping and the owner in court.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Considering the council install these I think in this case the council would be liable so health and safety must have been given some kind of waiver or why would they put it in?
The same council say you can't run cables fr your house to your car but then put in these lamposts
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
A lot of things have been dropped in the planning these days.
What about a blind person ?
These cables need a lot more thought .
They will just sue the council it’s their job to keep pavements safe, or was.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
If that Council is like our Council it has many arms and none of them have a clue what the others are doing....
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
The offending Lampost , it's for those marked bays as opposed to just along pavement
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PJ87
Journeyman Pro
What a simple yet brilliant idea , I should send this to the guy with the Tesla down the road lol
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
The cable will still be on almost 1/3 rd of the pavement though.
In our H&S obsessed councils I find that very strange.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
maybe promoting green and moving to net zero is being prioritised with the fines just paid out for claims , mitigation, how many injured would be had over the need to move over
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Looking at the picture, it seems like the council has supplied the socket, but it will be the car owner plugging the lead in and connecting to the car. I suspect that any case would be against the car owner looking at that section from the Highways Act; the council will side-step any liability.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
One fatality is one to many for me.
The state of the NHS and ambulance waiting times we should not be putting tripping hazards on the pavements.
The need to move over I get but safely is a must.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes so your car insurance will go up to cover the cost.
The council should not be able to just wring their hands of any blame.
If I was doing that risk assessment no way that gets the go ahead.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
I don’t necessarily disagree that there is an onus on them to do something to mitigate the possibilities, or that the design leaves something to be desired but I believe the bottom line would be that whoever plugs the vehicle in is responsible for making the cable safe.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes but by the nature of the installation you can’t avoid a tripping hazard.
If your crossing the road and go between two cars at night the cable is in your path.
You could be hidden by the cars and be there all night with head injuries or a broken pelvis.
I get the need to change the way we do things ,but that is not it imo.
Back to the drawing board I am afraid.
It looks like a cost cutting basic answer to a complicated system.
But puts another set of people in danger, that’s not acceptable.
Maybe if the cable itself was illuminated so it was highly visible in the dark !
But black cable in a loop on the ground is a no no.
PhilTheFragger
Provider of Entertainment for the Golfing Gods 🙄
You could have a black sign that lights up black with a black background saying “Trip Hazard”
With apologies to HotBlack Desiato ?
With apologies to HotBlack Desiato ?
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
You’ll never completely remove the hazard, but secure the cable to the lower part of the column, remove any loops in the run and clip it into a hi-viz cable ramp and even use a hi-viz colour cable and you can minimise it, which may be sufficient to discharge the liabilities in law.
I don’t disagree that it’s a very poor or not properly thought through design, just where the final liability would lie in the event that something went wrong.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Motorists can’t even park properly so expecting them to do that is not on imo
It’s the council for me and whoever is charging you money to use the socket.
But the council are responsible for the safety of the pavements.
It’s a totally avoidable risk.
I can also see a lot of vandalism to this sort of thing on public pavements.
No easy answer.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
There is zero difference here between this Lampost and the charge points you see everywhere, the one street ones with bays either side
People plug their own cables in and run to their cars
They are exactly the same as this and nobody has batted an eye lid nor are we hearing in the daily mail how everyone is falling over the enemies charge cables
It's a cracking idea along with the pull up ones
Many solutions
The onus is on people to run their cables correctly
But people are always the problem.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes I don’t disagree. They are the same.
I just think it’s dangerous.
If those cables were illuminated like rope lights that would help.
It’s going to happen no dought, but safety is obviously on the back burner.
