Texas Scramble query....

[chrisd]

I've played in dozens of Texas scrambles in 2 clubs and the lone golfer would hit tee shots until he got one in bounds.

 

[Spuddy]

No. The other players would play from wherever he dropped the ball under penalty - all playing their third shot.

Exactly. Isn't that the same if his tee shot goes OOB and everyone plays their third from the tee?

 

[doublebogey7]

Why do you keep on about Foursomes as being analogous? Foursomes are for two players playing alternate shots. Scrambles are for 3 or 4 players all playing shots from the same place. At no time in a scramble are the players playing alternate shots.

Simply because I can come up with no other way of proceeding in the absence of a competetion rule that would cover the situation. You on the other hand just keep giving your opinion.

 

[Three]

Seems obvious to me in the case of the remaining player who's drive it is goes OB.

The team are therefore playing their 3rd shot from the tee, they all play. They have taken his drive the hole has started, they are playing from where his drive ended up (just didn't go very far )

 

[chrisd]

Simply because I can come up with no other way of proceeding in the absence of a competetion rule that would cover the situation. You on the other hand just keep giving your opinion.

There are no standardised rules, so the answer is going to be opinion!

 

[williamalex1]

Each player must use number of drives required in the comp conditions , usually 4 drives each in a 3 player team, or 3 drives each in a 4 player team.
Always a good idea to get all drives used asap, to avoid standing on the last tee knees knocking , then knocking a few OOB.

 

[doublebogey7]

There are no standardised rules, so the answer is going to be opinion!

Agreed, though in the absence of a competition rule then competitors would need to decide for themselves. It seems to me that the only way of doing that would be to find a similar situation from the RoG.

 

[rosecott]

Exactly. Isn't that the same if his tee shot goes OOB and everyone plays their third from the tee?

Nothing to stop them but the tee shot selected will still have to be that of the player who put it OOB.

 

[rosecott]

Agreed, though in the absence of a competition rule then competitors would need to decide for themselves. It seems to me that the only way of doing that would be to find a similar situation from the RoG.

And the rule of golf is:

The player will put another ball in play under stroke and distance.

Note to Smiffy - can you do something about your insomnia and stop starting arguments.

 

[Three]

Nothing to stop them but the tee shot selected will still have to be that of the player who put it OOB.

Sorry I, don't follow any logic there.

If the one remaining player goes OB from the tee, the rest of the team play from where his tee shot ends up. They can't play from the OB position, so they all play from the tee.

There's no logic to say that the original player must play the FIRST AND THE THIRD shot of the hole

 

[bladeplayer]

I actually asked a question along these lines much much ealier in the thread but deleted it as I thought it was a bit mischievous , but now that others have gone on the same line ..

Player drives OOB , so that drive counts all play 3 off the tee..

If that drive doesn't count then does player play 1 off the tee again ..

either it counts or it doesn't ..



For the record ..Im of the belief that it should be the one player playing 3 off the tee as many times as it takes to get a ball in play & ive never played 1 any other way

 

[chrisd]

Agreed, though in the absence of a competition rule then competitors would need to decide for themselves. It seems to me that the only way of doing that would be to find a similar situation from the RoG.

I can't be right that the competitors decide for themselves as two teams in the same comp could do different things. I've never experienced this situation ever despite one player being required to take the last drive on a number of occasions.

 

[rosecott]

Sorry I, don't follow any logic there.

If the one remaining player goes OB from the tee, the rest of the team play from where his tee shot ends up. They can't play from the OB position, so they all play from the tee.

There's no logic to say that the original player must play the FIRST AND THE THIRD shot of the hole

I can't agree. He has to put a ball in play and that is when the other team members can join in the fun by playing from where it ends up..

 

[doublebogey7]

And the rule of golf is:

The player will put another ball in play under stroke and distance.

Note to Smiffy - can you do something about your insomnia and stop starting arguments.

Ok see where your coming from now, though why it has taken you 5 posts to come with that I am not sure.

Still an opinion then and if I was playing in a scramble without a comp rule covering it I would expect to proceed as I described earlier and don't see how my team could be penalised for doing so.

 

[Region3]

I can't agree. He has to put a ball in play and that is when the other team members can join in the fun by playing from where it ends up..

Just to add a little to the end of that, the ball can't be in play if there isn't a penalty for knocking the re-teed ball of its perch by accident.

 

[Three]

I can't agree. He has to put a ball in play and that is when the other team members can join in the fun by playing from where it ends up..

The team members are required to play from the resulting position of the drive of the remaining player.

In this case it is on the tee and they are playing the 3rd shot on that hole.

I have never ever seen a scramble rule that says, "each player must get their ball in play four times, and once they've done that the remaining players join in"
The rule always says, "the team must use 4 drives from each player".

 

[williamalex1]

The team members are required to play from the resulting position of the drive of the remaining player.

In this case it is on the tee and they are playing the 3rd shot on that hole.

I have never ever seen a scramble rule that says, "each player must get their ball in play four times, and once they've done that the remaining players join in"
The rule always says, "the team must use 4 drives from each player".

I've played in loads of these comps over many years at many clubs , and without exception.

The player whose DRIVE is selected , must be next to play the 2nd shot with his ball.

Every drive should be indicated on the card by initials or stating player A,B,C or D.

 

[rosecott]

The team members are required to play from the resulting position of the drive of the remaining player.

In this case it is on the tee and they are playing the 3rd shot on that hole.

I have never ever seen a scramble rule that says, "each player must get their ball in play four times, and once they've done that the remaining players join in"
The rule always says, "the team must use 4 drives from each player".

OK. I give in. I'm far too long in the tooth to survive 17 pages of trying to change your view.

 

[upsidedown]

I've played in loads of these comps over many years at many clubs , and without exception.

The player whose DRIVE is selected , must be next to play the 2nd shot with his ball.

Every drive should be indicated on the card by initials or stating player A,B,C or D.

The last one we played at our place had the rule that whose ever drive/shot was selected didn't get to play the next shot

 

[chrisd]

OK. I give in. I'm far too long in the tooth to survive 17 pages of trying to change your view.

Delc 2 ??