Subscriptions/current course closures - what is your club doing?

[Deleted member 17920]

This seems a little odd. If a club has the financial resource to retain all its green keeping staff, and they are able to ensure that the staff can work safely on the course within government instructions, why are they only allowed to do the bare minimum to maintain the course? Isn't the alternative to furlough workers, costing the government money which the Club is prepared to fork out itself? It can't be impossible to make sure that say 5 or 6 staff follow the social distancing and safety guidelines.

Or am I missing something?

Nope, Bigga has issued instructions to all clubs to what is allowed regardless of how much money they have.

Minimum course maintenance allowed and that’s it.

https://www.bigga.org.uk/news-listing/covid-19-crisis-essential-maintenance-randa.html

It’s all about following guidelines on safe distancing and essential travel and I don’t know many courses in the uk where all staff live on site.

 

[oltimer]

We’ll they shouldn’t be, the guidelines are clear, minimum amount of work as possible to keep the course going.

As haven`t been near the place for weeks was more of an assumption by me perhaps been better if had said repairs (not improvements) as course taken a bashing with wet Winter.

 

[Ducky81]

If Subs were due in September (unusual) why are they still urging members to pay?

Surely the subs should be in with nothing to pay till this coming September.

I can understand the request for some sort of rebate or extension, but as we don’t know how long it’s going to last, it’s difficult to predict

I meant my subs were paid in sept subs are due on date you joined when emailing & asking what they plan to do ie extend/freeze the memberships u get blanked

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I meant my subs were paid in sept subs are due on date you joined when emailing & asking what they plan to do ie extend/freeze the memberships u get blanked

Or perhaps they have been inundated with emails
Anything on the members area of the website?

 

[Ducky81]

Or perhaps they have been inundated with emails
Anything on the members area of the website?

No nothing on club’s website a bit of reassurance would be nice or updates

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Fees due 1st April - I paid mine in full.

Club have been communicating more than usual with an heartfelt plea for members to pay their subs to ensure we have a course to come back to! It seems to have worked.

The General Manager has also said that the club would look to compensate members for the lack of golf from 1st April - no details yet.

They have also published several vidios of work being done on the course with hollow-tining and fairway work being completed. We suffered badly in the wet weather (remember that!) so a lot of remedial work needs doing. The irony of doing all this work without having to avoid golfers isn't lost on the members.

In context we are a resort style course with 140 ish beds and bowls / gym facilities as well as golf so the owners are hurting badly.

Update - club have informed all members who have recently paid their subs that these will cover 15 months rather than the normal 12.

A good response in the circumstances.

 

[Ducky81]

Update - club have informed all members who have recently paid their subs that these will cover 15 months rather than the normal 12.

I good response in the circumstances.

Great response from your club & fair play to them

 

[PhilTheFragger]

No nothing on club’s website a bit of reassurance would be nice or updates

Which club? Maybe someone else is a member there and has some info

 

[Ducky81]

Which club? Maybe someone else is a member there and has some info

Betchworth park
No info

 

[JollyRedDevil]

Subs due end of April. Moseley Golf Club. We are getting 1% discount for every week the club house is closed and a further 1% for every week the course is closed, up to a maximum of 60%, if we pay in full. DD payers will get the discount once they've paid for 12 months. Discounts being paid onto the bar card.

 

[Khamelion]

I had not renewed, but from an email sent out to members, last years membership expired 31st March, all members who had renewed would have their direct debits frozen until playing resumes, not sure what the course action was for those who had paid in full.

 

[BrianM]

Paying by direct debit this year for the first time, still coming out of my account as normal, plenty of emails keeping us updated, small price to pay if you want a club to go back to in my opinion.

 

[Junior]

Our subs were due 1st of April. Club sent an email asking people to pay as, even though they might not be playing, there are of course costs incurred. Anyone who paid will effectively get the subs reduced for next year inline with how many weeks we are not on the course. I thought this was a very fair approach.

 

[Ducky81]

August or April?

Sounds fair our club is not communicating full stop ignoring emails etc I doubt I will be renewing my membership there

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Sounds fair our club is not communicating full stop ignoring emails etc I doubt I will be renewing my membership there

So you are going to leave a golf club because they have been closed for only 2 weeks and not sorted the business plan or forecast on what to do going forward ?

I question if you should be a member there in the 1st place if this is the support you are giving them during this horrendous times for all sports clubs up and down the country.

As a member we stick by our club through the good times but more important we stick together during the bad times.

 

[Ducky81]

So you are going to leave a golf club because they have been closed for only 2 weeks and not sorted the business plan or forecast on what to do going forward ?

I question if you should be a member there in the 1st place if this is the support you are giving them during this horrendous times for all sports clubs up and down the country.

As a member we stick by our club through the good times but more important we stick together during the bad times.

& what would you know !!!
It’s not the only reason I’m thinking of leaving,I’m self employed & work in the construction industry so will have to see how the rest of the year pans out

 

[Deleted member 17920]

& what would you know !!!
It’s not the only reason I’m thinking of leaving,I’m self employed & work in the construction industry so will have to see how the rest of the year pans out

So why didn’t you say that in the previous post. It came across that way as that’s how you worded it.

 

[Diamond]

If golf membership cost £100 a year then most people would be happy to ride the storm and plenty more pay next years £100 in advance. As it is around £1000 it is a lot of money for the majority of people, combine that with lost income/economic uncertainty it is perfectly understandable why there are so many people on a golf forum wanting refunds or frozen direct debits.

If you can afford it and are emotionally tied to your club then it is an easy decision to say keep the money and here is next years subs early. I can see why anyone disagreeing with you would also cause you anxiety.

Personally I think it is far to early to know what anyone can do as it seems to change daily. We can’t expect golf clubs to make decisions until the data is sufficient for the scientists to Move onto the next stage. However if the lockdown lasts for months rather than weeks I do worry whether there will be a golf club left for me to go back to which means any refund or discount for next year will be gone along with my £1000 I have already paid.

Stay safe guys.

 

[Ducky81]

& they have spent money in other stupid areas like £48k on new electronic gates that open for anyone & spent money on refurbishing the internal staircase when would rather have seen that money spent on the course!!!

 

[Ducky81]

If golf membership cost £100 a year then most people would be happy to ride the storm and plenty more pay next years £100 in advance. As it is around £1000 it is a lot of money for the majority of people, combine that with lost income/economic uncertainty it is perfectly understandable why there are so many people on a golf forum wanting refunds or frozen direct debits.

If you can afford it and are emotionally tied to your club then it is an easy decision to say keep the money and here is next years subs early. I can see why anyone disagreeing with you would also cause you anxiety.

Personally I think it is far to early to know what anyone can do as it seems to change daily. We can’t expect golf clubs to make decisions until the data is sufficient for the scientists to Move onto the next stage. However if the lockdown lasts for months rather than weeks I do worry whether there will be a golf club left for me to go back to which means any refund or discount for next year will be gone along with my £1000 I have already paid.

Stay safe guys.

More like £1800 i was after a bit of reassurance from my club not to be totally ignored I posted on here to try & find out what other clubs across the Uk planned to do