Submitting cards

[Bamberdele2.0]

Don't put those cards in then. That's the exact reason I haven't submitted many general play rounds - we tend to just enjoy the day, there will be gimmes, drops from lost balls, hero shots taken on... I don't personally think my handicap should be based on that. If you're submitting a card then you need to play by the proper rules, hole everything out etc. Not everyone is in the mood for that on their casual rounds.

Exactly. But even rounds played by the proper rules during general play are rounds where a person would be playing ‘hero’ shots on most holes.

They wouldn’t do this during a competition, hence why I’m inclined to not agree with these cards being submitted.

 

[Orikoru]

Exactly. But even rounds played by the proper rules during general play are rounds where a person would be playing ‘hero’ shots on most holes.

They wouldn’t do this during a competition, hence why I’m inclined to not agree with these cards being submitted.

It depends how people play their casual rounds I guess. I have put in some general play rounds recently, for the first time since we went to WHS. If you know you're putting the card in (which you will do because you register it beforehand) then you should be trying to play your best golf anyway, in which case it's still a bit similar to a comp round I think. It's a little less pressure but still some. It depends what your game is. I personally don't go for hero shots very often in any round since I'm no good at them so it's very rarely the option that gives me the best chance of scoring.

 

[Bdill93]

Exactly. But even rounds played by the proper rules during general play are rounds where a person would be playing ‘hero’ shots on most holes.

They wouldn’t do this during a competition, hence why I’m inclined to not agree with these cards being submitted.

I play better with friends than in comps. If I didnt submit my general scores id be a massive bandit.

 

[Imurg]

Some people, for whatever reason, may only get to play 3 or 4 comps a year.
It could be because they're, generally, unavailable on those days
They can, however, play on non comp days....
Would you prefer someone playing half a handful of comps a year, and thereby having scores in their top 20 from 3 or 4 years ago, with a, probably, wildly inaccurate handicap or someone who puts cards in regularly, has an accurate handicap because all 20 of his scores were from the last 4 months...?
You don't have to put every card in..you can have days where you just play and not even worry about numbers but you can have days where you play to the rules, putt out, take penalties etc etc and put that card in.
There is room for all 3 types of play.

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

Some people, for whatever reason, may only get to play 3 or 4 comps a year.
It could be because they're, generally, unavailable on those days
They can, however, play on non comp days....
Would you prefer someone playing half a handful of comps a year, and thereby having scores in their top 20 from 3 or 4 years ago, with a, probably, wildly inaccurate handicap or someone who puts cards in regularly, has an accurate handicap because all 20 of his scores were from the last 4 months...?
You don't have to put every card in..you can have days where you just play and not even worry about numbers but you can have days where you play to the rules, putt out, take penalties etc etc and put that card in.
There is room for all 3 types of play.

Maybe there should be a division for golfers that have had only a certain amount of cards submitted during comps over the year?

I imagine there’s a good few of them.

For example. You can’t enter the big comp unless a certain amount of stableford / medals have been played.

Would iron out a lot of dodgy general ply rounds in my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

There’s a huge difference in general play rounds compared to competition rounds.

It’s not even close

No there isn’t. They are both just hitting a ball into a hole with sticks.

An individual may chose to view them as different things, but they are not.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Why do people feel under pressure in a comp round?

How does paying £3.50 before playing a round result in putting yourself under pressure? Your performance in a comp or otherwise won’t impact your life in any meaningful way.

 

[Sports_Fanatic]

Exactly. But even rounds played by the proper rules during general play are rounds where a person would be playing ‘hero’ shots on most holes.

They wouldn’t do this during a competition, hence why I’m inclined to not agree with these cards being submitted.

Probably arguments both ways. Not in comp, more relaxed and may play better. Likewise hero shots may fail one week but come off in full another week resulting in a low card counting amongst the 8.

Didn't you also mention playing for money to make it feel important. If you're doing that and making it important then why wouldn't you be trying your best.

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

in my opinion the comps are there to get your name on the board. The cash incentive during these is irrelevant to me and I see the £3 sub I put into the pot as something I’m just giving back to the club for organising.

Couldn’t care what the pot was. Name on the board and order of merit points are much more important.

General play rounds for cash with mates is a different kettle of fish

 

[Deleted member 15717]

god, is this really a thread?

Submit cards, don't submit cards....you do you and enjoy the game.

Me? I try and submit as many cards as I can. Why? My enjoyment comes from trying to shoot the best possible score. I don't play any different in general play rounds to competition rounds. I hole everything out. I also laugh and joke in competitions as well as general play.

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

If I submitted all my cards I would be classed as a bandit when it came to competition play.

 

[Imurg]

If I submitted all my cards I would be classed as a bandit when it came to competition play.

That's why, when you're putting a card in, you have to try to shoot as good a score as you can..
If you're just out for a knockabout then don't put the card in....

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

That's why, when you're putting a card in, you have to try to shoot as good a score as you can..
If you're just out for a knockabout then don't put the card in....

How many knockabout cards do you think have been submitted into the system?

 

[evemccc]

Because you are not playing seriously. You are just enjoying a day out away from home. You’re basically on holiday

Not everybody goes weak at the knees with a ‘medal card in their hand’

Most people, I believe, try their hardest and play to the rules every time they play golf. I think a lot of fluff is talked about Medals and competition golf

If they’re dropping a couple of balls, trying shots out, or playing matchplay or playing solo, or not a full round, then people obviously don’t submit cards

But a medal at your own club, which you’ve played hundreds of times before, is basically no different to a round with a card submitted at your own course

People aren’t playing for millions or to remain on tour, there really isn’t any ‘pressure’

 

[rulefan]

Although I agree with what you are saying I am absolutely certain there are people out there that will abuse their general play cards in submitting scores that really do not reflect their capabilities.

If you are not playing by the rules (ie cheating) you mustn't return your scores. But do you not play by the rules when you play with "people I wouldn’t play money with" ?
If you do play by the rules do you not "Attempt to make the best score possible at each hole" as required by the WHS?

 

[Deleted member 15717]

How many knockabout cards do you think have been submitted into the system?

How many knockabout cards do you think have been put in the system

I mean, it also depends on your definition of 'knockabout'

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

If you are not playing by the rules (ie cheating) you mustn't return your scores. But do you not play by the rules when you play with "people I wouldn’t play money with" ?
If you do play by the rules do you not "Attempt to make the best score possible at each hole" as required by the WHS?

Our general play format consists of ‘money holes’ so I’d say around half of the holes are not counted towards the main bulk of the pot. So often people will try to be a hero on those holes and end up picking up, where as it wouldn’t be the same story during a comp. Hence why our general play rounds are pretty meaningless for putting a card in.

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

I’ve seen some dubious looking midweek general play scores submitted on someone’s profile in the past.

The contrast to their competition cards just does not add up

 

[MikeF86]

So, in the betting thread you say that everyone you play with/know is scrupulously clean and would never cheat for money, but in this thread, your view is totally opposite?
At least get one point of view and stick to it!

But only having one view doesn't help when trying to bump one's post count up

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

But only having one view doesn't help when trying to bump one's post count up

Are you people trying to explain to me that you cannot tell the difference between the two threads?

I play money with people I trust

I don’t play money with people I don’t trust.

I think the sunshine has gone to some peoples brains