Sports Personality of the Year 2015

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I'm guessing most of you didn't watch the Davis Cup then. GB won 12 points (matches) across four fixtures to take the title. Murray played in 11 of those matches and was unbeaten throughout to help us win a tournament we've not won for the best part of 80 years.

I'm not a League fan so can't comment on Sinfield but felt Farah had a better year than Ennis-Hill having done something no athlete has ever done before. Based on my knowledge of the sports in question I'd have had Murray, Froome and Farah but the latter two are probably deemed less British than Murray...
 
It's also more recent and people are still talking about it.

Froome, Farrah, Rutherford, ... were happening in summer. The boxer disqualified himself.
 
I would have had Farah personally.
Rutherford's achievement is massive too, isn't he currently Olympic, European, Commonwealth and World champion all at the same time? Mega.

I'm not even an athletics fan, but those two stand out to me, and they were no where near in the vote.

Murray benefited from the Davis cup being just recently.
 
It really makes me laugh. Andy Murray is the best tennis player that these shores have ever seen and it's clearly not good enough that he's world number 2 and the major part of the reason we've won the Davis Cup - he is an absolutely awesome sportsperson but because he comes over dull and without a personality he is criticised - are the public so fickle that his inability to shine on camera detract from his ability in his sport?
 
chrisd said:
It really makes me laugh. Andy Murray is the best tennis player that these shores have ever seen and it's clearly not good enough that he's world number 2 and the major part of the reason we've won the Davis Cup - he is an absolutely awesome sportsperson but because he comes over dull and without a personality he is criticised - are the public so fickle that his inability to shine on camera detract from his ability in his sport?
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Yes.
 
Personality definition here seems to go both ways.

Our deserving winner this year has had special sporting achievements, deserving recognition along with those who supported him, competed with in team events and drove him in individual events.

The award is a public vote, every single voter has their own definition of personality, as with everything democratic we all only get one vote.

Personally I see this award as something that should go to someone who has proven outstanding behaviour on and off their field/court etc of play, being both a role model and a sports star. They must engage with and motivate the public while delivering something world class in their sport.

Personality here to me means someone standing above the rest, to lead, to demonstrate, to inspire. Not the best sense of humor, nor winning it all in emotionless conquering. They must balance all traits, acumulating as a role model for all, transcending their sport, transcending all sport.

Our deserving winner this year ticks many boxes, many indeed. To tick them all is near impossible well it is in these modern times with such depth in talent world wide.
 
Stuey01 said:
I would have had Farah personally.
Rutherford's achievement is massive too, isn't he currently Olympic, European, Commonwealth and World champion all at the same time? Mega.

I'm not even an athletics fan, but those two stand out to me, and they were no where near in the vote.

Murray benefited from the Davis cup being just recently.
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I don't think Farrah resonates with the public that much. I think the fact he wasn't born here and doesn't live here helps, plus there's all his coaches drugs stuff (which I think Froome suffers from as well).

I agree his sporting achievements are immense. But whilst it is not overt racism by the public, I suspect if he was a bloke born in Sheffield and who lived in the UK then he would get a lot closer, possibly even win it. Again Rutherford's achievements are superb as well. But long jumping can't really compete with other more high profile sports and I'm not sure how many of the British public would have actually seen Rutherford win anything on TV. Which is why golfers will always struggle.
 
Rutherford I'd the best in the world and always drivers on the big stage. The trouble is 'all' he did in 2015 was become World Champion. The other titles were accrued over a four year period. Impressive but not achievements in this year.

Good shout on the drug talk acting as distractions for Farah and Froome :thup:
 
chrisd said:
Anyone can vote is my point and the award is called a "personality" award but you are suggesting that people know it's really for the best sportsperson of the year - I'm just pointing out that various types of people pick the phone up to vote and YOU don't have a skoobie doo the basis of their choice!
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Read the comments earlier in the thread. "Personality" is the description of the candidates, not the criteria. How many times does this have to be said?

It's based on who the public feel has achieved the most in their respective sports. If that makes the usual moaners on here feel like it's turned into an X factor type popularity contest then so be it. They are all worthy candidates in my opinion and dependant on each persons viewpoint they may agree or disagree with the winner. The only one it could be argued maybe shouldn't have won was Giggs but even for that year the was a reason why he was on the list. Just a shame that a short while later we all found out he wasn't as squeaky clean as we'd been led to believe.

Well done Andy Murray and also to the others shortlisted. All worthy!
 
It's also to me, those telling us how wonderful Murray is and what a guy, his talent, his ability and his oustanding performances in the Davis Cup, it's the system that's wrong, look on this thread, a few people have asked who the guy in 2nd is, that to me says more than anything, he is a bloke at the top of his sport and is not known, how many other sportsman are at the top of their respective sport and are not known and could be deserving winners.
It's not an open contest, it's between those the BBC decide should be on the list, if it was open would Murray of won? Probably he's had a great year, it's also about timing, see the point about Rutherford.
Being our No1 Tennis player and No2 in the world Murray will probably make next years list as well.
If you're going to have this competition then take it out of the publics hands and get a panel worthy of selecting our Top sportsman.
Let's be honest some of the public do vote based purely on their favourite, regardless of the year they've had.
 
pauldj42 said:
It's also to me, those telling us how wonderful Murray is and what a guy, his talent, his ability and his oustanding performances in the Davis Cup, it's the system that's wrong, look on this thread, a few people have asked who the guy in 2nd is, that to me says more than anything, he is a bloke at the top of his sport and is not known, how many other sportsman are at the top of their respective sport and are not known and could be deserving winners.
It's not an open contest, it's between those the BBC decide should be on the list, if it was open would Murray of won? Probably he's had a great year, it's also about timing, see the point about Rutherford.
Being our No1 Tennis player and No2 in the world Murray will probably make next years list as well.
If you're going to have this competition then take it out of the publics hands and get a panel worthy of selecting our Top sportsman.
Let's be honest some of the public do vote based purely on their favourite, regardless of the year they've had.
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He obviously is known by a lot of people considering he came 2nd. Aren't the finalist picked by a panel, and that's when it becomes the public vote.

It's horses for courses. You could stand the entire England cricket squad in front of me and I might get one or two. You could stand the majority of Rugby League lads in front of me and there might only be one or two I couldn't name.

Rutherford is a great athlete and has done a great job but, let's be honest here, he does the long jump. It's like gymnastics and swimming, you get overshadowed by the more popular sports.
 
Duckster said:
He obviously is known by a lot of people considering he came 2nd. Aren't the finalist picked by a panel, and that's when it becomes the public vote.

It's horses for courses. You could stand the entire England cricket squad in front of me and I might get one or two. You could stand the majority of Rugby League lads in front of me and there might only be one or two I couldn't name.

Rutherford is a great athlete and has done a great job but, let's be honest here, he does the long jump. It's like gymnastics and swimming, you get overshadowed by the more popular sports.
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Agreed, and it's your last 2 words that cause the issue to me, Popular and Sport, they mean different things to different people.😃
 
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