Scottish v English football

[Doon frae Troon]

I think Celtic only had six Scots in the 18 man squad, two in the starting eleven, maybe that is there problem.

All the same it looks like a decent squad to me.
Disappointing result but early days for the manager, I hope he gets a decent chance as the players seem to be impressed with him.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I never said he was ready for the Premiership now. Let's be honest, Premiership teams don't often sign young players with a view to developing them.

At the moment, Celtic are clueless when it comes to buying players. Look at the diddies they have bought over the last couple of seasons for £ms. The striker Balde must be one of the worst players I have ever seen.

So are you saying players can't reach their true level around their mid-20s or even late 20s? Barkley and Sterling could be nowhere by the time they are 25 with Stevie May playing at the highest level (i.e. Spain or Germany as we know the English Premiership is simply not the best league in the world). :ears:

Lots of clubs buy young players and then look to see how they develop

We ourselves have signed 4 of them this summer including one striker.

Players do reach their true level when it comes to around mid 20's - on the odd occasions you get later developers and obviously GKs are slightly different.

But if a player is going to make it at the highest level then at 21 ( 99% of the time ) they will be picked up already by a top club and already performing at the highest level

If May was 17 and on his way to the Championship then you could see him develop further - but at 21 ? Maybe its too late already. Maybe he is one that has slipped through the net somewhere but he hasnt even been picked for Scotland national team yet ( full )

 

[Val]

I think Celtic only had six Scots in the 18 man squad, two in the starting eleven, maybe that is there problem.

All the same it looks like a decent squad to me.
Disappointing result but early days for the manager, I hope he gets a decent chance as the players seem to be impressed with him.

Early days for the manager, however if history repeats itself for a 3rd time Deila will see 3 titles in a row and the last 16 of the CL within a year or 2.

Strachan - Artmedia Bratislava

Lennon - Braga

As for this season, well the season as a spectacle for Celtic fans is finished, the league title will be won before Easter and Celtic will finish at least 20 points clear and will probably lose more points after the league is won than they did for the whole season.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I think Scottish football is at its lowest ebb.

Champions thrashed by a team that struggled to get past St Pats, and not even reaching the last CL qualifier. They should get a relatively easy tie to qualify for the Europa league but you've got to question whether they'll manage to get through it.

Yet it's not even in doubt that they will still romp the SPL. The only other club that has even a remote chance of ever competing with them is a total joke off the field and an embarrassment on it.

Looks like we're spiralling downhill with no obvious way to reverse the trend.

Pretty depressing.

 

[Val]

I think Scottish football is at its lowest ebb.

Champions thrashed by a team that struggled to get past St Pats, and not even reaching the last CL qualifier. They should get a relatively easy tie to qualify for the Europa league but you've got to question whether they'll manage to get through it.

Yet it's not even in doubt that they will still romp the SPL. The only other club that has even a remote chance of ever competing with them is a total joke off the field and an embarrassment on it.

Looks like we're spiralling downhill with no obvious way to reverse the trend.

Pretty depressing.

Told you pal, egg chasing is the way forward :thup:

 

[FairwayDodger]

Told you pal, egg chasing is the way forward :thup:

Never! Daft game for oiks!

 

[Slime]

Told you pal, egg chasing is the way forward :thup:

A bit early to be drinking, isn't it?


Slime.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think Scottish football is at its lowest ebb.

Champions thrashed by a team that struggled to get past St Pats, and not even reaching the last CL qualifier. They should get a relatively easy tie to qualify for the Europa league but you've got to question whether they'll manage to get through it.

Yet it's not even in doubt that they will still romp the SPL. The only other club that has even a remote chance of ever competing with them is a total joke off the field and an embarrassment on it.

Looks like we're spiralling downhill with no obvious way to reverse the trend.

Pretty depressing.

It is - though I'd suggest that the serious spiral downhill is really only at the top level of the Scottish game - and that is unfortunately only Celtic and (The) Rangers. Regular and ancient watchers of my club (St Johnstone) reckon that the team we have today is possibly as good as our 'great' team of the late 1960s early 1970s under Willie Ormond - and that team came 3rd in the league in 1970-71 with Rangers and Celtic in the prime and a very good Aberdeen - Celtic won the league, Aberdeen second - and Saints beat Rangers into 4th.

We are lucky to have local lad Stevie May at the moment but knowing the nature of the Scottish Premiership (other than Celtic and maybe one or two others - it's very tight) there is a risk that without him we could find ourselves in a bottom 6 this coming season - the overall team is good but Stevie scores most of our goals!

As we don't have a replacement the prospect of losing him is making us fans one and all feel very depressed - so our call to chairman is identify a replacement plse before selling Stevie. Anyone who can score a few goals - we'll have a good amount of money available to find and pay someone who could do a good job in our league but don;t leave us completely toothless.

Other than that all is tickety-boo for the Scottish Cup Winners 2013 (until we get stuffed this evening in Slovakia )

Come on Aberdeen - you are our best hope (slim)

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'll note on reflection that if we get gubbed tonight and Aberdeen win we at least have the consolation of not having to play the Dons on Saturday - we have a bit of light relief and opportunity to get things out of our system as we are playing Celtic

Word on the grapevine is the Stevie doesn't wants to move and it's the club who want the money - not good for board-fans relations

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'll note on reflection that if we get gubbed tonight and Aberdeen win we at least have the consolation of not having to play the Dons on Saturday - we have a bit of light relief and opportunity to get things out of our system as we are playing Celtic

Word on the grapevine is the Stevie doesn't wants to move and it's the club who want the money - not good for board-fans relations

St Johnstone to Rotherham [a town I had to look up a map to see where it was] is hardly a career move.
The Saints want to sign him up for a 5 year contract like Liverpool did with Suarez.

 

[Papas1982]

St Johnstone to Rotherham [a town I had to look up a map to see where it was] is hardly a career move.
The Saints want to sign him up for a 5 year contract like Liverpool did with Suarez.

I would suggest same could be said bith ways. St Johnstone hardly based in a metropolis either.
Plus ridiculous as it is. He'll still earn more at Rotherham.

 

[gdunc79]

But if a player is going to make it at the highest level then at 21 ( 99% of the time ) they will be picked up already by a top club and already performing at the highest level

A bit like Rickie Lambert you mean............

Anyway, what is this Adam Morgan like who we have signed from Yeovil Town? Played well for Liverpool at youth level I believe. I also understand Robbie Fowler once said he was the most natural finisher he had ever seen. Must have lost it somwehere along the way.....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A bit like Rickie Lambert you mean............

Anyway, what is this Adam Morgan like who we have signed from Yeovil Town? Played well for Liverpool at youth level I believe. I also understand Robbie Fowler once said he was the most natural finisher he had ever seen. Must have lost it somwehere along the way.....

Rickie Lambert is a decent solid player who will score goals - he is cheap and playing for his boyhood club right now. Been aorund for years and did flourish a bit late so can put him in the 1%

Morgan was very prolfic at Youth and ressie level - looked to have a bright future. Was given a few starts and got the odd goal in cup but just didnt seem to be able to make the step up. Still could easily develop just think he lacks a little pace.

 

[Slime]

And the unknown, (to a small minority only), has put St Johnstone ahead!
Go Stevie!


Slime.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Looks like Legia Warsaw are getting investigated because of a possible Ineliguble player - could mean Celtic through to the final stage

 

[HomerJSimpson]

SSN saying the ineligible player could mean a reprieve but this has happened before and I'm sure the club normally gets fined. Mind you something says UEFA have chucked clubs out as well in the back of my mind. As long as they've been consistent in the past...NOT

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Aberdeen are flying the flag for scottish football and are putting in a mighty performance tonight.

2-1 V Real Sociedad

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Aberdeen are flying the flag for scottish football and are putting in a mighty performance tonight.

2-1 V Real Sociedad

Only need one more and plenty of time

 

[chris661]

Looks like Legia Warsaw are getting investigated because of a possible Ineliguble player - could mean Celtic through to the final stage

I really hope not

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I really hope not

Whys that ?