Scottish v English football

[Deleted member 15344]

Toni Kroos £24 million
Adam Lallana £25 million

English football is over inflated by money rather than quality, and it hasn't been effective improving anything, see champions league, piss poor world cup, etc.

Kroos had one year left on his contract and wasnt signing a new one hence going cheaper than his worth - same when Owne went for £8mil.

Sometimes its easier just to look at the fee.

As for CL - English footballs success has been pretty good - in the last ten year - 3 winners , another two finalists as well .

Spain had a poor WC im guessing that means their league is poor as well ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If you want evidence that English fitba has gone to hell in a handcart.

£35m buys you Andy Carroll
£1m buys you Stevie May

Who is Steve May ?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Toni Kroos £24 million
Adam Lallana £25 million

English football is over inflated by money rather than quality, and it hasn't been effective improving anything, see champions league, piss poor world cup, etc.

I agree with that.

In the majority of EPL clubs the best players are foreign. The record in the CL is actually not that bad but our national team can, at best, hope to occasionally get out of its group at major tournaments.

All the EPL has succeeded in achieving is an increase in the bank balances of many agents and lots of players, many of whom can only be rated as slightly above average.

Throughout these islands it is the same story when it comes to skill levels.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Who is Steve May ?

For someone who gives the impression that they know an awful lot about Scottish football I am amazed by your reply.

 

[mchacker]

Spain had a poor WC im guessing that means their league is poor as well ?

I didn't say the EPL was poor, I said it was overpriced. But seeing as Spain and England both failed to get out of their groups and both were bummed up by their media then you're welcome to tar both with the same brush.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

For someone who gives the impression that they know an awful lot about Scottish football I am amazed by your reply.

Well you are using him in comparison to Carroll - so what exactly is the comparison you are tryin to make ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I didn't say the EPL was poor, I said it was overpriced. But seeing as Spain and England both failed to get out of their groups and both were bummed up by their media then you're welcome to tar both with the same brush.

Would say English players are overpriced - mainly due to quotas needed by clubs

You mentioned not improving anything and quality and also mentioned the CL ? So I'm unsure what your point was with regards the CL

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Lets not forget when Fulham got to the Europa final we were the last British side standing, and had been for a while. Did that make them the biggest club in the country. Some of these comparisons are ludicrous

 

[gdunc79]

Who is Steve May ?

STEVIE May is the hottest prospect in Scottish football at the moment who is about to be sold to Rotherham for £800k as he only has a year left on his contract at St Johnstone. A crying shame as if he played in England he would be going for £2m-£3m easily.

I would have understood if you had said "who is Tony Watt?"......inferior Scottish striker sold by Celtic for £1.2m a couple of weeks ago despite not even getting a game for Celtic!!! I know who I would rather have bought with the money.....

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Who is Steve May ?

You know a lot about Scottish football then...actually you know fine well who he is.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

STEVIE May is the hottest prospect in Scottish football at the moment who is about to be sold to Rotherham for £800k as he only has a year left on his contract at St Johnstone. A crying shame as if he played in England he would be going for £2m-£3m easily.

I would have understood if you had said "who is Tony Watt?"......inferior Scottish striker sold by Celtic for £1.2m a couple of weeks ago despite not even getting a game for Celtic!!! I know who I would rather have bought with the money.....

£1.2m been rumoured..and Rotherham have the cheek to offer payment in phases. The won't or can't pay up front. Typical behaviour by English club towards diddy Scottish club - offer way under real value knowing it's hard to turn down and make the Scottish club feel deeply grateful to them for being so generous. 'Bigger' club in some ways it may be but sod off Rotherham you bunch of condescending shysters.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

STEVIE May is the hottest prospect in Scottish football at the moment who is about to be sold to Rotherham for £800k as he only has a year left on his contract at St Johnstone. A crying shame as if he played in England he would be going for £2m-£3m easily.

I would have understood if you had said "who is Tony Watt?"......inferior Scottish striker sold by Celtic for £1.2m a couple of weeks ago despite not even getting a game for Celtic!!! I know who I would rather have bought with the money.....

I know about Steve May

He is that hot a prospect the club to take a punt on him is Rotherham - which shows the level of the player.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

£1.2m been rumoured..and Rotherham have the cheek to offer payment in phases. The won't or can't pay up front. Typical behaviour by English club towards diddy Scottish club - offer way under real value knowing it's hard to turn down and make the Scottish club feel deeply grateful to them for being so generous. 'Bigger' club in some ways it may be but sod off Rotherham you bunch of condescending shysters.

So what is his true value?

Surely it is what someone is willing to pay for him. If, as you suggest. it is in the region of £2m - £3m then a club from the higher reaches of the Championship or perhaps a lower Premier League team would be in for him.

Still time before the window shuts but I don't see a queue of clubs at St Johnstone's door.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

So what is his true value?

Surely it is what someone is willing to pay for him. If, as you suggest. it is in the region of £2m - £3m then a club from the higher reaches of the Championship or perhaps a lower Premier League team would be in for him.

Still time before the window shuts but I don't see a queue of clubs at St Johnstone's door.

Quite right - there is no queue - he's still pretty raw and last season was the first when he has really shone. In fact I'm not that sure why Rotherham are bothering - other than if they are taking a punt and hoping we'll accept just about anything half reasonable - and £800,000 is probably half reasonable.

 

[Slime]

So Celtic are 0 - 1 down at half time.
They are of a standard that would not get them out of The Championship ........................ except via relegation of course.
Where did it all go so horribly wrong?


Slime.

 

[gdunc79]

I know about Steve May

He is that hot a prospect the club to take a punt on him is Rotherham - which shows the level of the player.

Keep fishing. How do you know he won't go on to score 25 goals this season for Rotherham or Sheffield Wed? Yet to find his "level". May even be Liverpool's level before too long.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Keep fishing. How do you know he won't go on to score 25 goals this season for Rotherham or Sheffield Wed? Yet to find his "level". May even be Liverpool's level before too long.

So why are none of the premiership teams looking at him ?

In fact what about Celtic looking at him ?

He is 21 - How does he compare to players like Barkley or Sterling ( both younger )

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Celtic out of CL after losing 2 nil at home

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Celtic out of CL after losing 2 nil at home

Dahlia wilts - not great for Scottish football. Must've been the alien feeling brought on my playing in Edinburgh

 

[gdunc79]

So why are none of the premiership teams looking at him ?

In fact what about Celtic looking at him ?

He is 21 - How does he compare to players like Barkley or Sterling ( both younger )

I never said he was ready for the Premiership now. Let's be honest, Premiership teams don't often sign young players with a view to developing them.

At the moment, Celtic are clueless when it comes to buying players. Look at the diddies they have bought over the last couple of seasons for £ms. The striker Balde must be one of the worst players I have ever seen.

So are you saying players can't reach their true level around their mid-20s or even late 20s? Barkley and Sterling could be nowhere by the time they are 25 with Stevie May playing at the highest level (i.e. Spain or Germany as we know the English Premiership is simply not the best league in the world). :ears: