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But they've been relatively minor events with relatively weak fields and smallish purses so fewer points.
He's still played well and is a great prospect for the future but not this time.
If we're talking pure form then Casey and Poulter could be looking over their shoulders.
There's so many permutations - I'd hate to be in TommyB's job...o_O
 

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Wouldn't argue against Wallace if he got handed a spot. Three wins shows form, confidence and consistency.

Poulter's form has gone south and doesn't look like returning anytime soon. Very difficult picks coming up.

Stenson is also a worry for form due to his injury. Casey is another who appears to be out of form at the crucial "picking" time.

Garcia hasn't helped himself, personally I'd have been looking at him coming to Denmark with a point to prove if I was Bjorn.

RCB is the only pick I can see as "guaranteed" at this time, although if I'm being honest I'd say Stenson is also a stick on.
 
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Poulters form hasn’t been too bad - he hates Boston it appears and never plays well there but top ten in the USPGA and a decent time in Europe - I think he along with RCB are the shoe ins.

Stenson and Casey have two rounds left in Boston to show their form , Pieters, Fitzpatrick and now Wallace have shown their hand.
 

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Why do so many people see RCB as a shoe in? Not won a tourney this year, not really contended in a major, basically has a last year win and some decent WGC finishes and a cracking final round in the PGA

Surely 3 wins in Europe carries more weight

For me RCB needs a very good couple of days
 
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Why do so many people see RCB as a shoe in? Not won a tourney this year, not really contended in a major, basically has a last year win and some decent WGC finishes and a cracking final round in the PGA

Surely 3 wins in Europe carries more weight

For me RCB needs a very good couple of days

I think right now he is producing steady solid form , he is a very good Foursomes players - he seems like he is playing well

But you could well be right and he is far from a shoe in
 

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Why do so many people see RCB as a shoe in? Not won a tourney this year, not really contended in a major, basically has a last year win and some decent WGC finishes and a cracking final round in the PGA

Surely 3 wins in Europe carries more weight

For me RCB needs a very good couple of days


As I personally see him as a better golfer than Casey, Fitzpatrick and Poulter.
 

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Most European Tour wins since the start of 2017:

Wallace - 4
Fleetwood - 3
Rahm - 3
Koepka - 3

Staking a pretty strong claim in front of Captain Bjorn. Don't envy him. Poulter's the only shoe-in. Then it's probably 3 from Stenson, Casey, Pieters, RCB, Wallace and Garcia. Very tough choices.
 

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Wallace has definitely laid down a marker but as Imurg has said, these are in smaller events and so stepping from those, to the cauldron of a RC is a big ask. I'm taking nothing away from what he's achieved but I simply feel this RC has come a tad too early for him and he'll need to keep performing well next season onwards and start winning and competing in the larger events. I have no idea what picks Bjorn will go for now as it's easy to make arguments and counter arguments for so many players. Personally given the top 8 we have, I'd definitely want to RC experience in there
 

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Wallace, I’d pick him, balls of steel.
Poulter, yes
Sergio, not a chance
Rafa CB, yes
Stensen, no injured.
Casey ,no, just doesn’t do it for me
Fitz. Yes just

Be interesting to see what TB opts for
Can’t wait, think we have a cracking team whoever the picks are
 

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I don’t think Casey is one of the definates - if looking at recent form can only be RCB

I think Casey will miss out - his form isn’t really justifying being picked the same with Garcia but if going for expirence then Garcia over Casey

But if Wallace wins this it does show how something isn’t right when someone wins twice on the ET in one year and be nowhere near

He is the guy on form so maybe he will be someone Bjorn looks at

Make that three wins in one year

I’d like to think you are correct about Casey. But I’d still be very surprised if he misses out.

Wallace is interesting and not much spoken about him in terms of RC. But his wins have come at pretty weak events and he will still be well down the list, even with today’s win factored in.

I’m sure if Rafa, Knox, Poulter, Casey, Stenson etc had played his schedule they’d have done similar, or better.
 

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Well he is on form , that’s his third win of the year - he should be in by right.

He should easily be in the mix now

But look at the fields he competed against in India, Germany and this week. I wouldn't argue against him getting the last pick, but that's more based on how much out of form some of the others are above him. And he is well below Fitzpatrick and Pepperill in terms of points, which is a measure of the ALL of the qualifying period.

BTW, you poo poo'd the idea of including Hatton 2 years ago who had had strong showings in several high profile tournaments in 2016. He hadn't won but he was worth a shout then. Wallace is just as much a question mark.

As it stands, my wild card picks would be Poulter, Stenson, RCB and Pieters. After that its Casey's prickliness for such an intense combative Ryder Cup that takes my eye.
 

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Wallace, I’d pick him, balls of steel.
Poulter, yes
Sergio, not a chance
Rafa CB, yes
Stensen, no injured.
Casey ,no, just doesn’t do it for me
Fitz. Yes just

Be interesting to see what TB opts for
Can’t wait, think we have a cracking team whoever the picks are

There is no way can you assess if Stenson can play or not. He is playing this week in Boston, so he’s not exactly lame. I’m sure Stenson will know and Bjørn will trust him to give him an honest assessment.

He is a former Open champion and vastly experinced and able Ryder Cup player. I’d certainly rather have him over some of the others in the mix.

Obviously depends on Bjørn and if he feels he can have a strategy that maybe involves Stenson playing only 3 matches, which isn’t a daft strategy necessarily.
 

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There is no way can you assess if Stenson can play or not. He is playing this week in Boston, so he’s not exactly lame. I’m sure Stenson will know and Bjørn will trust him to give him an honest assessment.

He is a former Open champion and vastly experinced and able Ryder Cup player. I’d certainly rather have him over some of the others in the mix.

Obviously depends on Bjørn and if he feels he can have a strategy that maybe involves Stenson playing only 3 matches, which isn’t a daft strategy necessarily.

Yes but the injury has affected him, he’s off the pace , if he was fit, then yes,
In the RC , things can change, picking someone for a 3 match strategy could go belly up and he needs to be fit enough to do whatever TB demands
 

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I agree Stenson will decide if he's playing. Bjorn will give him the option and accept what Stenson tells him with regard to his fitness.

Casey as much as I'm not a huge fan I think the fact that Bjorn approached him and asked him to re-join the European Tour speaks volumes.

As I said previously RCB is the one stick on for me.

That leaves Poulter and Wallace and I think we all know who wins that battle since Poulter thinks he's some sort of modern day Monty although he couldn't lace Monty's boots.
 

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Yes but the injury has affected him, he’s off the pace , if he was fit, then yes,
In the RC , things can change, picking someone for a 3 match strategy could go belly up and he needs to be fit enough to do whatever TB demands
The main reason he's so far down the pecking order is his short game and putting.
He's ranked 1st in driving accuracy and GiR on the PGA this year. The elbow injury isn't hindering that.
I'd suggest he would only need a few more putts to drop and he'd be there.
 

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IMHO the 4 picks should be

Wallace
Rafa CB
Fitzpatrick
Poulter

Wallace is in form and has the minerals, 3 wins in a season.
Rafa is also in form and just missed qualification.
Fitzpatrick also in form, gave it a great go this week. Steady foursomes player.
Poulter, win in US this year, decent recent form and, well, it's Poulter and the RC.

Personally wouldn't pick Casey purely on his past stance of not being bothered about ET membership and thus RC eligibility, shows what it means to him.
 
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