Ryder Cup European Wild Cards

[Deleted member 15344]

He has gone an entire year hasn’t he? Also since he switched equipment he has been poor. Could be winning the masters and the pressure to kick on or whatever . Dress it up how you want the bloke has been poor and won’t suddenly kick on end of the month

No he hasnt gone an entire year he has won this year as well as a number of high finishes in the WGC and PGA Tour Events - and also on the ET - the guy is still in the top 30 in the world. He has had a poor 8 weeks - you make it sounds like he is gone

 

[PJ87]

No he hasnt gone an entire year he has won this year as well as a number of high finishes in the WGC and PGA Tour Events - and also on the ET - the guy is still in the top 30 in the world. He has had a poor 8 weeks - you make it sounds like he is gone

Missing the cut at every single major this year is not a poor 8 weeks.. it’s a poor season

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Garcia
Stenson
RCB
Pieters

Poulter makes it as Vice Captain.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Why are so many suggesting Pieters?

No real current form, way down the lists on both World and European points.

Yes he was a star two years ago but he was performing on Tour at that time. Seen nothing to suggest that he would be likely to repeat that performance.

Certainly several that would be far less of a punt.

 

[Hobbit]

Garcia has had 3 top 10 finishes in the U.S., 2 of which were in WGC events and one of those top 10's was in the WGC matchplay, tied 9th along with a load of others tied 9th. His highest place was 4th in the Valspar, and he's not won a tournament.

He's played 12 times on the European Tour, and not won a tournament.

He's 39th on the Race to Dubai, from those 12 appearances, and Knox is 8th with only 7 appearances.

I'll be disappointed if he does get a pick.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why are so many suggesting Pieters?

No real current form, way down the lists on both World and European points.

Yes he was a star two years ago but he was performing on Tour at that time. Seen nothing to suggest that he would be likely to repeat that performance.

Certainly several that would be far less of a punt.

I think it’s mainly of his ability and the way he gelled with McIlroy

But after seeing him at the recent event I think he has been given the word he is missing out

Think it’s down to two for the fourth spot - Casey and Garcia

 

[USER1999]

RCB melt downnon 18.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I think it’s mainly of his ability and the way he gelled with McIlroy

But after seeing him at the recent event I think he has been given the word he is missing out

Think it’s down to two for the fourth spot - Casey and Garcia

I hope you are right about him missing out.

Little over the two years since the last RC to merit a selection .

Reminds me of Dubuisson.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I hope you are right about him missing out.

Little over the two years since the last RC to merit a selection .

Reminds me of Dubuisson.

I think he is going to come back again and play RC - he got a lot of attention after the last one and maybe that affected him - certainly has the ability so can see him playing RC again

 

[Dan2501]

I hope you are right about him missing out.

Little over the two years since the last RC to merit a selection .

Reminds me of Dubuisson.

Except Dubuisson didn't go 4-1 in the RC, and completely fell of the face of the earth in the build up to the next one. Pieters hasn't missed a cut since May, had a Top 30 at The Open, a T6 at the PGA, he's 22nd on the R2D with 5 Top 10's and only 1 missed cut. he's in very decent form without having that big win. Dubuisson in the build up to 2016 had 7 missed cuts and a WD, hardly similar.

His record this season isn't what should get him in the team though, it's his performance at the last RC. He was our star player, went 4-0 after getting stuck with Westwood on the first morning and formed a superb partnership with Rory. He's a brilliant Matchplay player and in a team with a number of rookies having someone that has performed so well, so recently in a Ryder Cup has to be a positive. I don't expect him to get picked, but he'd be in my team.

DeChambeau brilliant again last night, he's going to be a threat in France without doubt. The US team now picks itself I believe:

DeChambeau
Tiger
Phil
Finau

Kuchar will then take Tiger's VC spot. Would be amazed if that's not the team they go with.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm sure I can recall people on here hoping that BdC goes as he is mentally fragile. Hhhmmmmmm.

I saw a little of the golf last night and the only fragile one was Hatton doing his usual childish stomp and blame the greens when he missed a putt.

 

[Jacko_G]

RCB all but guaranteed his spot with this performance. That means:

Poulter
RCB
Stenson

are locks I think leaving the last spot between Pieters, Casey, Sergio and Wallace. Think Bjorn will go Pieters thanks to Rors influence but we'll see. Either way we're looking strong!

Utter nonsense. What influence does Rory have over Bjorn and his decision making? Casey was persuaded to re-join the European Tour by Bjorn does that mean I can make a rash statement that Casey is going to get a pick due to his friendship with the captain?

 

[Jacko_G]

Why are so many suggesting Pieters?

No real current form, way down the lists on both World and European points.

Yes he was a star two years ago but he was performing on Tour at that time. Seen nothing to suggest that he would be likely to repeat that performance.

Certainly several that would be far less of a punt.

Agree Pieters has zero chance of a pick in my opinion!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Except Dubuisson didn't go 4-1 in the RC, and completely fell of the face of the earth in the build up to the next one. Pieters hasn't missed a cut since May, had a Top 30 at The Open, a T6 at the PGA, he's 22nd on the R2D with 5 Top 10's and only 1 missed cut. he's in very decent form without having that big win. Dubuisson in the build up to 2016 had 7 missed cuts and a WD, hardly similar.

His record this season isn't what should get him in the team though, it's his performance at the last RC. He was our star player, went 4-0 after getting stuck with Westwood on the first morning and formed a superb partnership with Rory. He's a brilliant Matchplay player and in a team with a number of rookies having someone that has performed so well, so recently in a Ryder Cup has to be a positive. I don't expect him to get picked, but he'd be in my team.

DeChambeau brilliant again last night, he's going to be a threat in France without doubt. The US team now picks itself I believe:

DeChambeau
Tiger
Phil
Finau

Kuchar will then take Tiger's VC spot. Would be amazed if that's not the team they go with.

Sorry but if Pieters is to get a pick it should be based on what’s happening right now , just like Garcia is being dismissed on recent form and his RC record isn’t getting him into the team then what Pieters did two years ago shouldn’t get him into the team - and I also expect McIlroy what be pushing him either way - Bjorn will be looking to his vice captains for that , Rory can play and forge a partnership with any of the guys.

 

[Orikoru]

Missing the cut at every single major this year is not a poor 8 weeks.. it’s a poor season

Agree with that. Garcia shouldn't anywhere near.

I'd take Poulter, RCB, Stenson (if fit), and probably Wallace based on form. If Stenson's not fit then Pieters, Knox or Casey could go I suppose.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Except Dubuisson didn't go 4-1 in the RC, and completely fell of the face of the earth in the build up to the next one. Pieters hasn't missed a cut since May, had a Top 30 at The Open, a T6 at the PGA, he's 22nd on the R2D with 5 Top 10's and only 1 missed cut. he's in very decent form without having that big win. Dubuisson in the build up to 2016 had 7 missed cuts and a WD, hardly similar.

His record this season isn't what should get him in the team though, it's his performance at the last RC. He was our star player, went 4-0 after getting stuck with Westwood on the first morning and formed a superb partnership with Rory. He's a brilliant Matchplay player and in a team with a number of rookies having someone that has performed so well, so recently in a Ryder Cup has to be a positive. I don't expect him to get picked, but he'd be in my team.

Dubuisson was, I believe, 2.5 out of 3 in 2014 so comparable to Pieters but that is irrelevant.

Current form is what counts and Pieters form has not been good enough.

I also struggle to see how claims can be made that any player is brilliant at match play when not enough of it is played to enable a judgement to be made.

 

[Dan2501]

Utter nonsense. What influence does Rory have over Bjorn and his decision making? Casey was persuaded to re-join the European Tour by Bjorn does that mean I can make a rash statement that Casey is going to get a pick due to his friendship with the captain?

You don't think senior players within the team have an influence on who the captains picks are?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You don't think senior players within the team have an influence on who the captains picks are?

Why would they - he has picked 4 Vice Captain for that , the senior players playing will be concentrating on playing. He may ask but he won’t be influenced- Bjorn is his own man and a strong one at that

 

[Curls]

Matt Fitzpatrick is surely in the conversation? He had a mare last time but

1. He's not a rookie
2. Currently sits in place 11 - however
3. He's less than £300k behind Knox in position 9. He's off to Crans this weekend where I'll be a monkeys uncle if he doesn't do well (if not win). A couple of good weeks and he's a lock imo.

He's 9/1 with paddy Power to make the team as it stands, which I think is mental.

Henrik is carrying an injury and may not be fully fit, you can't carry someone carrying a knock.
Casey is a bottlejob who only just put his name in the hat, so won't be seen as RC loyal in my book
Garcia is way off form. Yes form is temporary but unless he shows something soon I can't see how he'd make it
Poulter was out of form last time around and didn't play well imo
Rafa played well last time and is in form - he'd be a pick for me as it stands but 3 weeks is a long time in golf.
Pieters isn't really firing, again, 3 weeks to show up

In light of the above saying Matt has a 9/1 shot of making the team (probably just cos he didn't play well last time) is very, very good odds....

 

[Slab]

Matt Fitzpatrick is surely in the conversation? He had a mare last time but

1. He's not a rookie
2. Currently sits in place 11 - however
3. He's less than £300k behind Knox in position 9. He's off to Crans this weekend where I'll be a monkeys uncle if he doesn't do well (if not win). A couple of good weeks and he's a lock imo.

He's 9/1 with paddy Power to make the team as it stands, which I think is mental.

Henrik is carrying an injury and may not be fully fit, you can't carry someone carrying a knock.
Casey is a bottlejob who only just put his name in the hat, so won't be seen as RC loyal in my book
Garcia is way off form. Yes form is temporary but unless he shows something soon I can't see how he'd make it
Poulter was out of form last time around and didn't play well imo
Rafa played well last time and is in form - he'd be a pick for me as it stands but 3 weeks is a long time in golf.
Pieters isn't really firing, again, 3 weeks to show up

In light of the above saying Matt has a 9/1 shot of making the team (probably just cos he didn't play well last time) is very, very good odds....

Captains picks get locked in tomorrow I think