Random Irritations

[Arthur Wedge]

Rely on the BBC for what? Endless repeats of Bargain Hunt or Pointless?

No form of television should be considered a public service, it's not essential in any way. They'd certainly be able to afford something if they're £180 a year better off.

There are millions of people in their later years that are housebound through no fault of their own and even those repeats of Bargain hunt etc are what they look forward to and for them to keep their mind active etc

It’s very small at the end of the day but whilst we may not need entertainment there are some that do for their well being

I can understand how when many including myself that get sky etc see the bbc as an inconvenience but I hope it’s always there for some

 

[RichA]

Rely on the BBC for what? Endless repeats of Bargain Hunt or Pointless?

No form of television should be considered a public service, it's not essential in any way. They'd certainly be able to afford something if they're £180 a year better off.

Most vaguely civilised nations have some kind of public broadcasting service funded by its taxpayers. Thankfully we have one that isn't government controlled. Ours is imperfect but widely acknowledged around the world as a benchmark, as they immodestly like to remind us.
Suggesting it's entirely repeats of crappy cheap studio recordings is pretty reductive.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I cancelled my tv licence & sky tv.
For me neither were value for money.
Had a couple of knock on the door from tv licence,who seem to think they are entitled to enter your house to “ask a few questions”.
Sent them packing & had a few letters.
Sky occasionally call to offer a “great deal”.
Nah I’m ok thanks

 

[Orikoru]

I cancelled my tv licence & sky tv.
For me neither were value for money.
Had a couple of knock on the door from tv licence,who seem to think they are entitled to enter your house to “ask a few questions”.
Sent them packing & had a few letters.
Sky occasionally call to offer a “great deal”.
Nah I’m ok thanks

There's a thing you can do online which is a declaration of not needing a licence basically, it lasts a year and it means they stop sending letters and leave you alone.

 

[Orikoru]

With the Met Line not running past Baker Street, I planned to walk to Monument from my office today, to get the Circle line which I thought would be a little quicker. Then when I left the office I just walked to Liverpool Street as normal on autopilot and only realised when I got there.

 

[Pin-seeker]

There's a thing you can do online which is a declaration of not needing a licence basically, it lasts a year and it means they stop sending letters and leave you alone.

Why do they just assume that people need one?
It’s a tv/Radio/online service.
If I don’t want their product I’m not going to pay for it,I’m also not going to explain myself to someone knocking at my door.
The bbc is now no different to other subscription services,it’s a choice.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Also,why don’t the BBC just make it so you can’t stream it unless you have paid to subscription?

 

[IanM]

Also,why don’t the BBC just make it so you can’t stream it unless you have paid to subscription?

Have a guess

Other providers do it. They don't want to remove the threat of a Court Appearance that scares pensioners into paying.

 

[Voyager EMH]

I must pay loads of tax for stuff I have never, and will never, use. This will be both on the national level and local council tax level.
I could complain over and over again about these taxes being poor value for money for ME.
But I don't.
They are very good taxes for the common good.
Same goes for TV licence fee.
It is for the common good of the country. In this respect - IT IS EXCELLENT VALUE - if you can put aside your what's-in-it-for-me views.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I must pay loads of tax for stuff I have never, and will never, use. This will be both on the national level and local council tax level.
I could complain over and over again about these taxes being poor value for money for ME.
But I don't.
They are very good taxes for the common good.
Same goes for TV licence fee.
It is for the common good of the country. In this respect - IT IS EXCELLENT VALUE - if you can put aside your what's-in-it-for-me views.

I can for lots of things.
But not a subscription service.
It’s not a charity,you’re not doing a great service by “subscribing”
The elderly & poor aren’t going to suffer if there’s no bbc.
Plenty of other FREE tv

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

I must pay loads of tax for stuff I have never, and will never, use. This will be both on the national level and local council tax level.
I could complain over and over again about these taxes being poor value for money for ME.
But I don't.
They are very good taxes for the common good.
Same goes for TV licence fee.
It is for the common good of the country. In this respect - IT IS EXCELLENT VALUE - if you can put aside your what's-in-it-for-me views.

I fail to see that it’s in the common good for the country with biased reporting and enforcing payment for it!

It is not EXCELLENT value for me as I use none of it. The whole point of subscription services and paying for something is what’s in it for me!! That’s whole point of why anyone choose to pay for something.

 

[IanM]

I must pay loads of tax for stuff I have never, and will never, use. This will be both on the national level and local council tax level.
I could complain over and over again about these taxes being poor value for money for ME.
But I don't.
They are very good taxes for the common good.
Same goes for TV licence fee.
It is for the common good of the country. In this respect - IT IS EXCELLENT VALUE - if you can put aside your what's-in-it-for-me views.

I know you'll well enough to asume you're just pretending you don't understand the difference between things like health care, the military, education and other consumables?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I know you'll well enough to asume you're just pretending you don't understand the difference between things like health care, the military, education and other consumables?

He seems to think that a BBC licence is a tax & compulsory.
That’s the problem imo.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

When it comes to perceived Bias of the BBC

Which way is it bias ?

The right think it’s bias towards the left

The left think it’s bias towards the right

And which part in the BBC is biased ?

The part that broadcasts Gavin and Stacey

The presenters on Strictly ?

I do remember that there was accusations of bias on MOTD because certain teams went first but think that was from a Forest fan ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

On a flip side to people thinking that trying to force people/making them believe they have to have a license,is doing good.
How about people that are living on the bread line.
I’m sure it’s a bill they can do without.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Subscription services like the BBC & Sky must Love it when they see people saying they’re “great value”.

A sellers dream

 

[Pin-seeker]

If you’re a bbc fan that’s fine,but to tell yourself you’re doing a good service to people less fortunate is frankly embarrassing.

 

[Voyager EMH]

I fail to see that it’s in the common good for the country with biased reporting and enforcing payment for it!

It is not EXCELLENT value for me as I use none of it. The whole point of subscription services and paying for something is what’s in it for me!! That’s whole point of why anyone choose to pay for something.

If biased reporting bothers you, I can't see why you need to criticise the BBC and leave all other channels uncriticised.
I watch SKY news sometimes - that seems to me to be 50% reporting the news and 50% a platform for political propaganda of one particular group.

There never used to be subscription TV services and some have never used them. I think about those people's needs and wishes as well as my own.
If there was an option to opt out of the TV license fee, many people would suffer a much poorer existence, as the service would have to shrink severely.

This is a common misguided view of tax in general.
That is people seem to need to see a personal benefit rather than what is good for all people, most people, or vulnerable people in need.

Those who have never subscribed to pay-to-view used to enjoy very good TV with only 4 channels. They have seen that deteriorate while continuing to pay the licence fee.
From their viewpoint - subscription telly is to blame for the licence fee being poorer value for money than it used to be.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

If biased reporting bothers you, I can't see why you need to criticise the BBC and leave all other channels uncriticised.
I watch SKY news sometimes - that seems to me to be 50% reporting the news and 50% a platform for political propaganda of one particular group.

There never used to be subscription TV services and some have never used them. I think about those people's needs and wishes as well as my own.
If there was an option to opt out of the TV license fee, many people would suffer a much poorer existence, as the service would have to shrink severely.

This is a common misguided view of tax in general.
That is people seem to need to see a personal benefit rather than what is good for all people, most people, or vulnerable people in need.

Those who have never subscribed to pay-to-view used to enjoy very good TV with only 4 channels. They have seen that deteriorate while continuing to pay the licence fee.
From their viewpoint - subscription telly is to blame for the licence fee being poorer value for money than it used to be.

I’m not leaving them uncriticised. The topic being discussed is the BBC and is value I’m pointing out why I don’t see the value in it despite all the cries of its amazing, it’s excellent a national service

I will openly criticise any biased reporting. I choose very carefully what news I view to ensure sure I take a balanced view of all news. I am happy to pay for Sky as I watch all the sport and that’s VFM. Their news channel though wouldn’t watch it if you paid me!

There never used to be be subscription tv is a poor argument and I cannot believe anyone’s life will be poorer for opting out of BBC funding other than maybe the head of the BBC and his annual bonus. There is plenty of free to air TV to watch of better quality and they may just save a few quid !

I’ve never heard a single person complain TV quality is poorer because of subscription services reducing the quality of the BBC. The quality of BBC is down to them alone nothing to do with other services being better and willing to improve. I was done with this topic but posts of people constantly beating the national treasure, it’s a life saver for millions is just absolute drivel.

But that’s it I literally done with this topic and won’t comment further regardless what guff is posted about it now because this thread is so far off what it’s meant to be it’s boring. Bit like the BBC actually

 

[IanM]

Other channels can be uncriticised as "you are able to vote with your feet" ie not pay.

Anyway, on less controversial ground. Pizza. It's a right con, isnt it!