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Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
This whole titanic sub episode. The scale of the rescue operation when it cost went missing and the aftermath of the loss.
I think it’s one of those endeavours where you should be left to your own devices (or at least that of the support crew you have with you at the time) if it goes wrong. Same as climbing Everest. If you have difficulties - that’s on you. You chose to do something utterly dangerous in a death zone.
Feel for the families but no way I would have signed off on any search and rescue.
I think it’s one of those endeavours where you should be left to your own devices (or at least that of the support crew you have with you at the time) if it goes wrong. Same as climbing Everest. If you have difficulties - that’s on you. You chose to do something utterly dangerous in a death zone.
Feel for the families but no way I would have signed off on any search and rescue.
Fade and Die
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People that think you should not be allowed to criticise an inferior product.
Misogynists who justify their opinions.
I’m very uncomfortable with the way some people have taken the attitude of “They deserve it after ignoring all warnings” and people equating it to the tragic loss of life when the migrant boat sank recently.
People need to realise it’s ok to be sad about more than one thing and it’s not a competition.
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
No, they didn’t deserve to die but they knew what they were getting into with a trip 4km down.
Fade and Die
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In the only unlicensed and uncertified Submersible operating anywhere in the world. A bloody tragedy obviously but you have to take responsibility for your own decisions sometimes… it’s the 19 year old lad that I feel most sorry for, I read he was terrified but went to please his dad.
Hopefully it was as mercifully quick as as been said.
cliveb
Head Pro
Did they know that the sub hadn't passed the industry standard safety tests and that the company running it had been warned they were playing with fire?
chrisd
Major Champion
This is discrimination of the highest order - no mention of us stuck in the 50's
Captainron
Big Hitting, South African Sweary Person
It could be the best made, best record craft ever built but going down underwater 4000 odd meters is the most dangerous place on earth and the risk involved would still be ridiculous.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
My attitude to women's track and field is stuck in the 1940s.This is discrimination of the highest order - no mention of us stuck in the 50's
I believe Fanny Blankers Koen was the greatest female athlete of the 20th century and arguably of all time.
Four golds in the 1948 Olympics 100m, 200m, 80m hurdles and 4x100m relay, when there were only nine events for women to enter.
She had competed in the 1936 Berlin Games as a teenager, then had to wait 12 years due to WW2 for another chance at the age of 30.
Held her national titles at High Jump and Shot Putt as well.
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Where do you draw the line on who should get help/be rescued?
Ever smoked? No cancer treatment.
Mountain Biking is dangerous. No air ambulance for you if you fall off.
Break your leg playing football? Unlucky, you knew the risk.
Ever smoked? No cancer treatment.
Mountain Biking is dangerous. No air ambulance for you if you fall off.
Break your leg playing football? Unlucky, you knew the risk.
Taking the train journey from hell. Should have been straight forward once I got to London waterloo. Alas someone has gone head to head with a train at Southampton so now having to get to Salisbury and an uber back....
Everyone should be helped, but every commercial organisation should have insurance to cover the help when things go wrong. Quite where you draw the line for insurance… should a climber have it? A mountain biker? A yacht’s man?
AmandaJR
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I've been a sportswoman all my life. Represented my county at three different sports and, as a youngster, was in the England Hockey training squad. In all that time I have NEVER compared my performance to a boy/man playing the same sport. Why would I? A pointless exercise and the only athletes I compared myself to were other females. That was my barometer and sporting role models/inspirations were all female as it was something I could genuinely aspire to.
The only sporting "arena" I have EVER been made to feel inferior is the golf course/club...part of why I don't play anymore.
So to try and compare professional sportsmen and sportswomen is frankly ludicrous. Take each one on its merit and admire the athletes for their commitment and endeavour and talent.
The only sporting "arena" I have EVER been made to feel inferior is the golf course/club...part of why I don't play anymore.
So to try and compare professional sportsmen and sportswomen is frankly ludicrous. Take each one on its merit and admire the athletes for their commitment and endeavour and talent.
HeftyHacker
Well-known member
None of the examples (mountain biking excepted perhaps) above present serious risk to those rescuing and/or require equipment that only a handful in the world possess.
By going in that submarine they must have been aware that if anything went wrong there was next to no chance of them being rescued once they went below a certain depth.
D-S
Well-known member
Babe Zaharias wasn’t bad either:-
Representing her company in the 1932 AAU Championships, she competed in eight out of ten events, winning five outright, and tying for first in a sixth. Didrikson's performances were enough to win the team championship, despite her being the sole member of her team.
Didrikson/Zaharias is the only track and field athlete, male or female, to win individual Olympic medals in separate running, throwing and jumping events.
Also a brilliant golfer making the cut in two PGA Tour events.
Pretty much agree with this.
What I will add is that, try as I might, I have very little sympathy with the CEO Stockton Rush. The more I have read and heard about his approach to operating that submersible, the more he sounds like a risk taking maverick.
By all means play Russian Roulette with your own life if it gives you a kick. But placing others at such avoidable risk, and allegedly ignoring countless warnings that you are playing with fire, is beyond unforgivable.
EDIT: Anyone doubting what a maverick this man was, just watch Titanic Sub Search on BBC News (available on Catch Up). A quarter of a million dollars per person to travel in that thing? If I’d taken one look inside and also at how it was controlled, there is not a chance I would have stepped inside. Staggering arrogance to take money from unsuspecting third parties to travel over two miles down in that bathtub. Sorry.
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People who don't leave feedback on eBay.
Or worse, vendors who don’t like honest feedback regarding a truly shocking product and service, and ask you to change it because it might harm their business.
