POLL: How do you feel about WHS?

[IanMac]

Only in proportion to the %age of other players in the comp with similar handicaps and work ethic.
Perhaps you are suggesting higher cappers don't work as hard as low cappers.

Quite the.contrary. I never said it gave advantage to low handicappers and never saw that so the winners were those who practiced.

 

[Morfeen75]

Me. Everyone else seems to have appointed themselves.
But in this case I simply asked a question I didn't make a judgement.

It wasnt just a simple question, you have tried to belittle another forum member.

 

[sunshine]

A very poor handicap system that lets people manipulate it through an app.

Also people can manipulate it and not do anything that can be flagged if they’re clever.
They only get caught if they are stupid or someone snitches.
All above board nothing to see here

People are defending the system as they don’t see it.
But others are telling us that it is a real problem.
Heads in the sand , or are the Rand A finally seeing what’s going on ?

I find this remarkable. Such widespread cheating at your golf club.

Also find it remarkable that my tongue in cheek comment about Liverpool was deleted.

Whether you like it or not, the problem of cheating is a cultural issue at your club, rather than a problem with the WHS. I’ve not seen or heard of anyone manipulating their handicap upwards.

This appears more of a social construct, eg in football it has become acceptable to cheat or dive, it’s even called “clever” by some people, whereas in many other sports nobody would even consider trying to con the referee.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I find this remarkable. Such widespread cheating at your golf club.

Also find it remarkable that my tongue in cheek comment about Liverpool was deleted.

Whether you like it or not, the problem of cheating is a cultural issue at your club, rather than a problem with the WHS. I’ve not seen or heard of anyone manipulating their handicap upwards.

This appears more of a social construct, eg in football it has become acceptable to cheat or dive, it’s even called “clever” by some people, whereas in many other sports nobody would even consider trying to con the referee.

Likewise. I may be naive about it, or may not be looking or listening, but I’ve not got any great feeling of there being widespread or even occasional handicap upward manipulation at my place - certainly none that would be considered systematic cheating. There are some whose handicap is higher than known in the past and who play as if in the past…but I consider that to be same as ever was.

The lowest handicappers moan that winning of handicap comps for them is a thing of the past…but to be honest I consider that to be more about numbers and statistics…more mid-high teen handicappers and more of them working actively on improving.

 

[rulefan]

It wasnt just a simple question, you have tried to belittle another forum member.

Au contraire. I was only pointing out that their view of WHS had been expressed by them many times before.

 

[IanMac]

It wasnt just a simple question, you have tried to belittle another forum member.

Thanks Morfeen75 but RuleFan doesn't offend me at all.

 

[clubchamp98]

I find this remarkable. Such widespread cheating at your golf club.

Also find it remarkable that my tongue in cheek comment about Liverpool was deleted.

Whether you like it or not, the problem of cheating is a cultural issue at your club, rather than a problem with the WHS. I’ve not seen or heard of anyone manipulating their handicap upwards.

This appears more of a social construct, eg in football it has become acceptable to cheat or dive, it’s even called “clever” by some people, whereas in many other sports nobody would even consider trying to con the referee.

So because you havnt seen it it dosnt exist?

I havnt seen anyone with a knife so all knife crime dosnt exist.

Plenty on here have given examples of it but let’s just blame Liverpool.
Get your facts straight at least, the club is closer to Manchester.

 

[IanMac]

So because you havnt seen it it dosnt exist?

I havnt seen anyone with a knife so all knife crime dosnt exist.

Plenty on here have given examples of it but let’s just blame Liverpool.
Get your facts straight at least, the club is closer to Manchester.

Stopping cheating won't fix WHS. It doesn't work even if everyone plays fairly.

 

[IanMac]

Au contraire. I was only pointing out that their view of WHS had been expressed by them many times before.

Pot, kettle

 

[rulefan]

Pot, kettle

More like grey. You beat me 26 - 8 in this thread.

 

[IanMac]

More like grey. You beat me 26 - 8 in this thread.

Crikey, keeping score.!

 

[Banchory Buddha]

So as it stands, taking out the don't cares, it's 60/40 in favour

That's a massive failure by the R&A and USGA

 

[VVega]

So as it stands, taking out the don't cares, it's 60/40 in favour

That's a massive failure by the R&A and USGA

The system which is favoured by nearly 2/3 is a failure how?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

So as it stands, taking out the don't cares, it's 60/40 in favour

That's a massive failure by the R&A and USGA

You have it the wrong way around

 

[RichA]

In the political world a 15% margin is considered a landslide.
But this was just a "fun" poll on an internet forum among folks with a common hobby.

 

[Banchory Buddha]

The system which is favoured by nearly 2/3 is a failure how?

1/3 are not on board with it, that's pretty massive surely?

 

[Banchory Buddha]

In the political world a 15% margin is considered a landslide.
But this was just a "fun" poll on an internet forum among folks with a common hobby.

Call me slow, but I'd guess the R&A were hoping for a rather more overwhelming seal of approval from it's users

 

[RichA]

Call me slow, but I'd guess the R&A were hoping for a rather more overwhelming seal of approval from it's users

Rather goes against the belief that it's universally despised though, which was all I was questioning.

 

[rosecott]

1/3 are not on board with it, that's pretty massive surely?

Not really. Only a third of our Seniors moaning about anything under the sun is a result for me.

 

[Banchory Buddha]

Not really. Only a third of our Seniors moaning about anything under the sun is a result for me.

Coming from a system where there were very few moans, I'd say it's significant