Nobody knows the rules!

[delc]

Well you didn't! At least not the FC side of it (the Etiquette).

In that case I'll try again. Players must not play a shot when their caddie, playing partner, or playing partner's caddie are standing on or close to the line of play or line of putt, behind the ball. To do so incurs a 2-shot penalty in strokeplay or loss of hole in matchplay.

Fellow competitors can stand where they like, subject to good etiquette, It is not good etiquette to stand close to or behind a player's line of play, but there is no penalty as such for doing so.

 

[Foxholer]

In that case I'll try again.

No! don't bother. Your explanation is better, but still incomplete.

 

[delc]

I already had! Under Rule 33-7 a committee can disqualify a player for a serious breach of etiquette, but that is the only sanction I can find in the rules. See also decision 33-7/8, which I have copied out below:

"A serious breach of etiquette is behaviour by a player that shows a significant disregard for an aspect of the Etiquette Section, such as intentionally distracting another player or intentionally offending someone.
Although a Committee may disqualify a player under Rule 33-7 for a single act that it considers to be a serious breach of etiquette, in most cases it is recommended that such a penalty should be imposed only in the event of a further serious breach.
Ultimately, the application of a penalty for a serious breach of etiquette under Rule 33-7 is at the discretion of the Committee."

 

[EarCat]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I can't be only poster here who thinks that the majority of the rules of golf are just stupid, golf should be simple to referee, it game in which players put the ball in the hole in the least amount of shots, not a game where you can be penalised for saying certain things, for accidentally moving your ball 1/16 of an inch while addressing it or fixing a great big spike mark that is in your line. Is it any wonder golf is decreasing in popularity? The more rules added to golf, the less fun it becomes for golfers[/FONT]

 

[Crow]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I can't be only poster here who thinks that the majority of the rules of golf are just stupid, golf should be simple to referee, it game in which players put the ball in the hole in the least amount of shots, not a game where you can be penalised for saying certain things, for accidentally moving your ball 1/16 of an inch while addressing it or fixing a great big spike mark that is in your line. Is it any wonder golf is decreasing in popularity? The more rules added to golf, the less fun it becomes for golfers[/FONT]

It sounds good when you say it quickly but sit down with a rule book, take a look at each rule and imagine the situation, what would you suggest in its place?

I've done this and have come to the conclusion that the rules of golf have to be extensive to cover for all the possible situations that can arise in a sport that has an almost infinite number of variables.

 

[CliveW]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I can't be only poster here who thinks that the majority of the rules of golf are just stupid, golf should be simple to referee, it game in which players put the ball in the hole in the least amount of shots, not a game where you can be penalised for saying certain things, for accidentally moving your ball 1/16 of an inch while addressing it or fixing a great big spike mark that is in your line. Is it any wonder golf is decreasing in popularity? The more rules added to golf, the less fun it becomes for golfers[/FONT]

The R&A are currently reviewing The Rules of Golf with a view to simplifying them and making them easier to understand. Unfortunately this will probably happen until the the 2020 edition.

There is a quote inside the front page of the current rule book which states "Play the ball as it lies, play the course as you find it, and if you cannot do either, do what is fair. But to do what is fair, you need to know the Rules of Golf."

 

[clubchamp98]

I can't be only poster here who thinks that the majority of the rules of golf are just stupid, golf should be simple to referee, it game in which players put the ball in the hole in the least amount of shots, not a game where you can be penalised for saying certain things, for accidentally moving your ball 1/16 of an inch while addressing it or fixing a great big spike mark that is in your line. Is it any wonder golf is decreasing in popularity? The more rules added to golf, the less fun it becomes for golfers

Agree some rules seem daft . asking what club a scratch golfer hit would not help the average 28 h/capper as they play the same sport but not the same game? But if you moved your ball 1/16th of an inch everytime you addressed it would look a little careless bad lie becomes better. The problem is there are to many cheats in the game and the rules are needed to stop them taking the Michael. I am sure the original thread asked about advice clubbing in a team event what is the rule in a 4 man team as they are not fellow competitors but partners .

 

[Foxholer]

For several hundred years, there were no Rules - everybody just did what was 'proper'.

Then Edinburgh Council got involved! :rofl:

There were only 13 Rules originally - and a couple of those were specific to Leith Links.

But as circumstances have evolved, so the Rules have had to. The number of situations where some sort of ruling is required has expanded considerably.

 

[clubchamp98]

Amazing how many people, me included, don't know all the rules.

Here are two common breaches I've witnessed recently. One competitor (4 handicap team player) on par 3 tee "I've got a 5 iron, what do you think?" Other competitor (single figures) "I'm taking a 6". Two stroke penalty to each.

Player hit his tee shot miles right. Two fellow competitors immediately shout "That's exactly where you were aiming!" Whoops, 2 stroke pen.

And how many people time the search for a lost ball properly? Not many.

When you say "4 h/cap team player " does this mean he is playing in a 4 man team event ? If so I always thought you could give partners advice ? as they are team members not fellow competitors.

 

[Foxholer]

When you say "4 h/cap team player " does this mean he is playing in a 4 man team event ? If so I always thought you could give partners advice ? as they are team members not fellow competitors.

I read it that he was/is a 4 handicapper and plays in the Club Team.

 

[delc]

The R&A are currently reviewing The Rules of Golf with a view to simplifying them and making them easier to understand. Unfortunately this will probably happen until the the 2020 edition.

There is a quote inside the front page of the current rule book which states "Play the ball as it lies, play the course as you find it, and if you cannot do either, do what is fair. But to do what is fair, you need to know the Rules of Golf."

Most of the rules you really need to know are on the R&A Rules of Golf mobile phone app, and this includes a simple guide to the game.

 

[CliveW]

Most of the rules you really need to know are on the R&A Rules of Golf mobile phone app, and this includes a simple guide to the game.

All the rules of Amateur Status are on the app

 

[delc]

All the rules of Amateur Status are on the app

Just what you need to know during a club medal competition!

 

[need_my_wedge]

In an effort to simplify the rules for the general club player, how about a GM post/ article listing the 10 or 20 basic/ most important rules need to play in your club comps....

 

[ManinBlack]

I read it that he was/is a 4 handicapper and plays in the Club Team.

Correct!

 

[JCW]

Just trying to clarify the rule.

We all know you are ,but its just pointless as whatever you post or quote they come back with another angle to suit their argument , just move on mate . life is a learning curve

 

[HawkeyeMS]

We all know you are ,but its just pointless as whatever you post or quote they come back with another angle to suit their argument , just move on mate . life is a learning curve

Or, he could get the rule right while clarifying it. Just a thought?

 

[delc]

Or, he could get the rule right while clarifying it. Just a thought?

On at least one occasion I quoted directly from the rules of golf. How right do I need to be? :mmm:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

is it just me or DelC is back and we're back in groundhog day again.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

On at least one occasion I quoted directly from the rules of golf. How right do I need to be? :mmm:

Maybe if you'd done that the first time, you wouldn't have needed to keep clarifying