Nobody knows the rules!

Foxholer said:
I read it that he was/is a 4 handicapper and plays in the Club Team.
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Does NOT say club team just" 4 h/cap team player" that could mean he plays rugby or in the club snooker team . You don't get a 4 h/cap from playing in teams. But goes on to say competitors so cant be a team event . This is part of the problem with the rules if you don't get the question worded right you can get lots of differing interpretations
 
clubchamp98 said:
Does NOT say club team just" 4 h/cap team player" that could mean he plays rugby or in the club snooker team . You don't get a 4 h/cap from playing in teams. But goes on to say competitors so cant be a team event . This is part of the problem with the rules if you don't get the question worded right you can get lots of differing interpretations
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Check post 95!

And you have demonstrated the real issue.

It's not a problem with the Rules; it's a problem with (the) interpretation, or the question. Find the appropriate Rule(s), read it literally - no interpretation, no problem!
 
I recently learnt about the 'standing behind the line of putt' rule. I specifically looked it up because we had a Texas Scramble coming up and I wanted to know if we were allowed to stand behind the putt to watch the line. Obviously we weren't allowed to, but the rules don't prohibit team members (4BBB etc) from watching the line of the putt from the other side of the hole, which is what we did.
 
Foxholer said:
Check post 95!

And you have demonstrated the real issue.

It's not a problem with the Rules; it's a problem with (the) interpretation, or the question. Find the appropriate Rule(s), read it literally - no interpretation, no problem!
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just checked post 95 but check post 1 it still does not say club team player he could be the team leader in work and as such is known as a "team player"
 
clubchamp98 said:
just checked post 95 but check post 1 it still does not say club team player he could be the team leader in work and as such is known as a "team player"
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True. But beyond even my levels of pedantry.

OP was slightly ambiguous;You raised a query; I posted how I'd interpreted the ambiguity; that interpretation was confirmed as correct; end-of
 
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I had an interesting rules dispute last year. I was playing in a strokeplay competition with 2 higher handicappers (20+). After pitching onto a green I wanted to clean my ball. I had mislaid my magnetic marker somewhere, so marked the ball by sticking a tee peg into the green behind it. Immediately one of the 20+ handicappers stormed over and said "That's a penalty for testing the green." I explained that it wasn't, and asked how one was supposed to repair a pitch mark without sticking a pitch mark repairer into the green. But he was still adamant and called the other player over who backed him up. So I said "OK record two scores and we'll sort it out with the committee afterwards". Needless to say both the club pro and the committee backed me, but the urban myth that you can't mark a ball with a tee peg on the green seems to be a surprisingly common one.
 
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delc said:
I had an interesting rules dispute last year. I was playing in a strokeplay competition with 2 higher handicappers (20+). After pitching onto a green I wanted to clean my ball. I had mislaid my magnetic marker somewhere, so marked the ball by sticking a tee peg into the green behind it. Immediately one of the 20+ handicappers stormed over and said "That's a penalty for testing the green." I explained that it wasn't, and asked how one was supposed to repair a pitch mark without sticking a pitch mark repairer into the green. But he was still adamant and called the other player over who backed him up. So I said "OK record two scores and we'll sort it out with the committee afterwards". Needless to say both the club pro and the committee backed me, but the urban myth that you can't mark a ball with a tee peg on the green seems to be a surprisingly common one.
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Count yourself lucky, folks can go their whole life without seeing someone actually 'storm' somewhere, especially rare on a golf course too
 
delc said:
I had an interesting rules dispute last year. I was playing in a strokeplay competition with 2 higher handicappers (20+). After pitching onto a green I wanted to clean my ball. I had mislaid my magnetic marker somewhere, so marked the ball by sticking a tee peg into the green behind it. Immediately one of the 20+ handicappers stormed over and said "That's a penalty for testing the green." I explained that it wasn't, and asked how one was supposed to repair a pitch mark without sticking a pitch mark repairer into the green. But he was still adamant and called the other player over who backed him up. So I said "OK record two scores and we'll sort it out with the committee afterwards". Needless to say both the club pro and the committee backed me, but the urban myth that you can't mark a ball with a tee peg on the green seems to be a surprisingly common one.
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Another Golf Course myth where a wager of a tenner into the Captain's Charity (and a Beer/Coffee) sorts things out! Likewise what you can use as a Marker - Brian Barnes's Beer Can for example, or a club.

I trust you 'fessed up and called a Penalty on yourself when you found the marker attached to your Putter - after you had putted out! :whistle:
 
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Foxholer said:
True. But beyond even my levels of pedantry.

OP was slightly ambiguous;You raised a query; I posted how I'd interpreted the ambiguity; that interpretation was confirmed as correct; end-of
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Its amazing how pedantic I can be when I have nothing to do. But if OP is going to cite other players he should at least get the facts right.
 
hmmmm its not like we are playing for a million dollars or a tour card. I think we know when someone is blatantly breaking rules and when its just amatuers exchanging views. My PP/FC might say thats a 5 iron for you (hypothetically) i still have to choose the line and make the right swing/connection on it.

One reason why I gave up playing comps every week.

I remember when I had my 3 iron in from messing about on the range, realised halfway down the 1st in a comp as it meant 15 clubs so blobbed the hole and quickly ran and put it in the car whilst they played the hole out, blobbed the next cos I was still knackered from running.

I am sure we all break rules at some point unintentionally but as long as we play fair and in good spirits then surely all is good in the grand scheme of things?
 
A bit of ignorance and or latitude is sort of ok in friendlies. But ever since an FC told me I hadn't scored a three because I was offside, I've been a stickler for accuracy.
 
G1BB0 said:
hmmmm its not like we are playing for a million dollars or a tour card. I think we know when someone is blatantly breaking rules and when its just amatuers exchanging views. My PP/FC might say thats a 5 iron for you (hypothetically) i still have to choose the line and make the right swing/connection on it.

One reason why I gave up playing comps every week.

I remember when I had my 3 iron in from messing about on the range, realised halfway down the 1st in a comp as it meant 15 clubs so blobbed the hole and quickly ran and put it in the car whilst they played the hole out, blobbed the next cos I was still knackered from running.

I am sure we all break rules at some point unintentionally but as long as we play fair and in good spirits then surely all is good in the grand scheme of things?
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Well, knowing that it was a penalty was fine. But if you had known slightly more (or not been disoriented by the discovery!) you would have known that you only needed to declare it 'out of play' and didn't need to rush to/from the car! So a couple of points 'lost' from not knowing the Rules?
 
Foxholer said:
For several hundred years, there were no Rules - everybody just did what was 'proper'.

Then Edinburgh Council got involved! :rofl:

There were only 13 Rules originally - and a couple of those were specific to Leith Links.

But as circumstances have evolved, so the Rules have had to. The number of situations where some sort of ruling is required has expanded considerably.
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If that's the case, I'm surprised the rules ever got finished.
 
mcbroon said:
If that's the case, I'm surprised the rules ever got finished.
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That was my point!:whistle:

And, given that most of those playing at the time (1774) were Military or Legal folk, I'm surprised there weren't more battles (physical, vocal and documents) too! Just shows how 'unifying' the game was! The small book about the history of THCEG is well worth a read!
 
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